No seriously where are they?

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[–] 4 points 1 day ago (15 children)

uncontrolled burns aren't run through catalytic converters or whatever the powerplant-level remediation is called. this is worse than burning it properly unless the total amount is way less, enough to cover all the extra emissions from increased military activity. the upshot is if it causes a long-term change in energy generation and iran's reparations depend on the oil flowing again eventually.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago* (13 children)

    Total amount is way less. This is how the oil world dies, in flames. It's the only way forward, we have to rip the band aid off. There is no peaceful transition away from the oil reich.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago* (5 children)

    You have a lot of assumptions baked into this. Why are you certain that this disruption results in a permanent decrease in oil consumption?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

    Upcoming oil shocks will destroy the world economy and total consumption will collapse. We might have another world war where even more energy infrastructure is wiped out. China (the winners of the world war) will help rebuild the world from the ashes with clean energy. The table is set.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    So it's apocalyptic wishful thinking as usual, got it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago*

    Apocalyptic, eh sure I guess.

    Wishful? Not at all.

    • premise: China will rebuild the world with clean energy
    • premise: oil reduction will devastate the world economy
    • premise: oil consumption will reduce.

    Oil reduction has already been hit. Energy markets are in chaos. Demand reduction has already occurred. Many people, like myself, are buying solar panels, EVs, electric scooters, electric bikes, battery systems, etc. The source of this is China.

    The EU went from being over a decade behind their emissions targets to being over a decade ahead. A leap of 25 years in a short timespan.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (6 children)

    ard, we have to rip the band aid off.

    this analogy is actually bad because that causes more pain to patients, the longer duration of doing it slowly is just inconvenient for nurses.

    There is no peaceful transition away from the oil reich.

    of course not, but it's not just an environmental free roll to blow up the infrastructure

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    it's a widely used figure of speech, you don't need to be so pedantic.

    Blowing up pipelines is necessary but not sufficient. It's still necessary.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    it's a figure of speech that should die because it's wrong

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    i think needless derailing pedantry should stop, because it is not helpful to conversations

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