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China has imposed a range of sweeping new rules restricting travel in and out of the country in a move that observers say will give the government even more control over its citizens.

Citizens deemed to have "harmed" China's national security or interests while overseas can also be barred from leaving China for up to three years.

But the law also says that it will apply to anyone considered a threat to the country's industrial or technological security.

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Under the new rules, border officials are now also required to advise Chinese nationals against travelling to countries and regions deemed "high-risk".

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But even prior to the rules being announced, some people were already restricted from going to certain countries. Civil servants were among the earliest groups subjected to these controls, which later expanded to include state-owned enterprise employees and ordinary citizens.

A retired grassroots civil servant in Anhui told BBC Chinese that around 2018, his workplace made employees surrender their passports. His passport remains in the custody of his former employer even though he retired last year.

According to the ex-civil servant, employees had to apply and explain their reasons for overseas travel, and not all requests were approved.

For example, trips to visit relatives were more likely to be approved than tourism trips, he said.

"It is mainly to prevent corrupt officials from fleeing or transferring assets abroad," he said. "For more senior officials, it may also be intended to prevent the disclosure of state secrets."

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A man identified by his pseudonym, Xiao Wang, who works at a state-owned financial institution in Beijing, told BBC Chinese that his fellow employees have long been required to surrender their passports and get approval for overseas travel.

The 32-year-old said managers have verbally reminded staff that "sensitive countries such as Japan are definitely off-limits".

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The rules could also affect citizens who work in areas such as human rights, say analysts.

"This is another tool designed to control what Chinese citizens do and say overseas," said Professor Tom Kellogg, Executive Director of the Center for Asian Law at Georgetown University.

"In some cases, in order to prevent individuals from criticising the Chinese government overseas or to punish their rights advocacy activities, state security authorities directly refuse to issue passports."

One 26-year-old Chinese citizen, who wished to be identified only as Pipi, told BBC Chinese that his passport application in 2023 was rejected and he believes it was because he attended the massive pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong in 2019.

According to Pipi, he was interviewed by Hong Kong media outlets during the protests. When he returned to mainland China, he was questioned by state security police.

He said one immigration official told him that he could not get a passport "because of the Hong Kong issue" – but this was not confirmed in writing to him.

"I don't know whether I'll ever be able to leave [China]," he said.

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    Do you need to hear that you won? Or will you remember that next time you talk to a stranger: sometimes there isn't a motive and it's just words.

    I had a hard day and I was simply trying to share, like many people on the Internet. I'm not the one being aggressively obtuse.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (4 children)

    Not really, I tried to make a simple point, the firewall doesn't actually prevent anyone from looking in. That's mostly a language and reporting barrier. I'm sorry you had a hard day, but I don't see how I was aggressive.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    The way you're being isn't necessarily aggressive.

    As a stranger, I can tell you that if you have friends & act like this towards them, they are putting in a lot of effort to remain in your life.

    ..you remind me of my friend Joshua (of whom I love) he is very difficult to have a conversation with.

    Maybe look back on our conversation and take a moment to reflect on it...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    I do have friends, but I think we all interact online pretty differently compared to how we interact IRL.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I agree, many people express themselves differently online.

    I'm a rare example of someone who doesn't. I'd love to meet you in person because I'm pretty sure this conversation would be entirely different if you knew me.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    It probably would be! There's also the fact that face-to-face communication is entirely different from the "read response, draft a response, reply" format of these kinda of websites.

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