I thought Ira Behr's and Anton Mount's comments were interesting.

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Honestly, the eye gouging didn't hit me all that hard. I'll have to do a rewatch someday and see how I feel. But sure, if it were 2020 I wouldn't really bother arguing against the "gritty" description. Looking back at this point, only about 10% of the Kurtzman era had that kind of tone.

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