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If you like Griffith, I don't wanna be your friend (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 10 points 5 days ago (10 children)

The message: "Look at this heavily militarized society, absurd huh?" But some people: "Looks fine to me"

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  • [+] -6 points 5 days ago (9 children)

    But would a non-militarized society survive in a conflict against the bugs?

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  • [–] 14 points 5 days ago* (1 child)

    Regardless of speculation about the movies universe the point is the movie is a satire of facism, as that’s how the director interpreted the book (that is, fascist in nature). A lot of people missed this about the movie. If the arming of kids and sending them off to war, the slogans, the service guaranteeing citizenship and as I mentioned in another comment, the SS uniforms, don’t convince you. Maybe the directors own words will:

    Although some contemporary critics and audiences considered Starship Troopers to be an endorsement of fascism, Verhoeven said, "whenever you see something that you think is fascist, you should know that the filmmakers agree with your opinion"

    Edit: check out the wiki if you’d like to know more.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    Don't you think a non-militarized society would probably have not started a war in the first place? The bugs were minding their own business before humans showed up looking to shoot shit and steal other shit.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    I don't remember that part in the movie, sorry.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago* (3 children)

    There are hints throughout. For example:

    https://youtu.be/J206CKoG1R0

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (1 child)

    Weren't these religious settlers? It says so in the voice over...

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago

    The voice over puts this on "Mormon Extremist Settlers", yes.

    The problems with that is:

    1. Those are still humans settling in bug space
    2. Can we believe the propaganda voice over?
    3. Mormon extremists?

    The propaganda machinery of the Federation would never take responsibility, it's all about keeping the populace in a constant state of fear, anger and hyperpatriotic, unthinking loyalty. We keep hearing about the "Arachnid exclusion zone" and "quarantined bug space" which implies that the Federation has been trying to restrict the bugs from leaving their space, while the map of the galaxy, showing where earth is and where bug space is located makes it pretty clear that the Federation of Citizens has expanded aaaaaaall the way across the galaxy. Knowing how imperialist settler colonialism works, it's easy to see how the Federation is either

    a) sending settlers into bug space to expand their own territory, or
    b) engineering conflict with the bugs in order to keep the militarist machinery rolling, or
    c) most likely, doing both.

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