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Bloomberg: US Senator calls for investigation following allegations Elon Musk disrupted Ukraine's strike on Russian fleet (kyivindependent.com)
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Paywalled article: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-11/elizabeth-warren-demands-probes-of-elon-musk-spacex-after-ukraine-revelations

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[–] 78 points 3 years ago (4 children)

Allegations? You mean the fact he openly admitted it to his biographer?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    The biographer who has since retracted and clarified that it was never on over Crimea.

    And even if you think the biographer is lying in his retraction, that then ruins all credibility for the book as anything can be a lie.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    In which case an investigation would still be in order. If Musk is not in fact a traitor who actively worked against US interests and is not actively colluding with an enemy of the state indirectly resulting in civilian deaths, I would care to know as well.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Also, there's been 0 word from Ukraine saying they successfully used Starlink in Crimea prior to this problem.

    If it truly was on in the past, they could claim he's lying as they used it successfully.

    All we've heard from Ukraine is them condemning the move but nothing backing up it was actively turned off.

    Them making a claim would further warrant an investigation.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Given the contradiction, something is probably worth doing ya.

    But we are in the alleged territory not admitted territory.

    A whole investigation is probably overkill though. I imagine it won't be hard for SpaceX to show their active coverage at a given time and just send the report to congress.

    No need for hearings or anything like that.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    40 hryvnia says that those logs will be mysteriously missing, or they simply "don't keep logs that long in the past" when it's requested.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    I think I'd be surprised if they say they don't keep them that long. I have a feeling there might be some requirements imposed on them by the DoD in that regard.

    It'd be nice to see something more official from SpaceX on the matter.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Someone else posted this yesterday relating to these allegations:

    It’s being pushed hard by someone, a few weeks ago there were vague “unnamed sources in the government” stories about them being “concerned” with how much power Elon has over Starlink, this morning Issiacson had to walk back his description of “drones washing up on shore” after it was clarified that there never was coverage in Crimea, Ukraine asked for it and Elon said “no, that’s a conflict area” which is consistent with where they have enabled Starlink up to that point.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Its just all disingenuous anti-musk bs

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