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[–] 32 points 3 days ago* (1 child)

I learned the pledge of allegiance way before I had understanding of the words "pledge" or "allegiance" or half the words we needed to recite. It has no meaning to a six-year-old, and by the time I was capable of understanding meaning I had so deeply ingrained it as an annoying meaningless ritual that it never crossed my mind.

I'm now in my thirties and reading your comment is the first time it's hit me that the words are intended to have more ideological significance than putting your socks on. When you say it out loud it's obvious, but having to perform or hearing a mention of the pledge has consistently gotten the same amount of attention from me as one pant leg going on before the other one.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago

    There's a 1964 short story called "The Children's Story" by James Clavell about how scary it would be if the communists took over and replaced your elementary school teacher with somebody who questioned what the pledge of allegiance means and was otherwise an evil atheist commie.

    It's a REALLY interesting read today because the new commie teacher brings up a lot of good points. It's interesting to think that that's what people were so afraid of, that somebody would tell students that they shouldn't say the pledge of allegiance without knowing what it means. I deleted a ramble here about how good it is but it's really worth a read or reread.

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