▲ 1017 ▼ Early internet nostalgia (thelemmy.club) submitted 3 days ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works 171 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) messy and disorganized and confusing and very much not private So exactly the same as the fediverse we're on then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 3 days ago (1 child) No. Not like that at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Well nothing is private on lemmy. Or piefed. And it's pretty confusing for normies, more so than email. I see a lot of similarities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Privacy is not a binary concept. Lots and lots of stuff is private that isn't on other platforms. Email only isn't confusing for normies because they learned how to use it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. You COULD use GPG in PMs, but then people have been encrypting their email for decades too. And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics to know where to sign up to be able to email the people you want to email. So I'd still say email is simpler to use. Maybe not simpler underneath on a technical level, but that doesn't matter to the end user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. Not hard at all. It's as simple as not collecting information that isn't strictly necessary to run the service. And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics Dont have to do that here either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Not hard at all. It’s as simple as not collecting information that isn’t strictly necessary to run the service. Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Dont have to do that here either. Yeah, there's this thing called defederation. You could lose access to communities you've been actively posting in, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 days ago Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Fair. there's this thing called defederation You think email doesn't have defederation? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 3 days ago (1 child) No. Not like that at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Well nothing is private on lemmy. Or piefed. And it's pretty confusing for normies, more so than email. I see a lot of similarities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Privacy is not a binary concept. Lots and lots of stuff is private that isn't on other platforms. Email only isn't confusing for normies because they learned how to use it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. You COULD use GPG in PMs, but then people have been encrypting their email for decades too. And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics to know where to sign up to be able to email the people you want to email. So I'd still say email is simpler to use. Maybe not simpler underneath on a technical level, but that doesn't matter to the end user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. Not hard at all. It's as simple as not collecting information that isn't strictly necessary to run the service. And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics Dont have to do that here either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Not hard at all. It’s as simple as not collecting information that isn’t strictly necessary to run the service. Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Dont have to do that here either. Yeah, there's this thing called defederation. You could lose access to communities you've been actively posting in, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 days ago Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Fair. there's this thing called defederation You think email doesn't have defederation? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Well nothing is private on lemmy. Or piefed. And it's pretty confusing for normies, more so than email. I see a lot of similarities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Privacy is not a binary concept. Lots and lots of stuff is private that isn't on other platforms. Email only isn't confusing for normies because they learned how to use it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. You COULD use GPG in PMs, but then people have been encrypting their email for decades too. And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics to know where to sign up to be able to email the people you want to email. So I'd still say email is simpler to use. Maybe not simpler underneath on a technical level, but that doesn't matter to the end user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. Not hard at all. It's as simple as not collecting information that isn't strictly necessary to run the service. And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics Dont have to do that here either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Not hard at all. It’s as simple as not collecting information that isn’t strictly necessary to run the service. Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Dont have to do that here either. Yeah, there's this thing called defederation. You could lose access to communities you've been actively posting in, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 days ago Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Fair. there's this thing called defederation You think email doesn't have defederation? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Privacy is not a binary concept. Lots and lots of stuff is private that isn't on other platforms. Email only isn't confusing for normies because they learned how to use it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. You COULD use GPG in PMs, but then people have been encrypting their email for decades too. And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics to know where to sign up to be able to email the people you want to email. So I'd still say email is simpler to use. Maybe not simpler underneath on a technical level, but that doesn't matter to the end user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. Not hard at all. It's as simple as not collecting information that isn't strictly necessary to run the service. And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics Dont have to do that here either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Not hard at all. It’s as simple as not collecting information that isn’t strictly necessary to run the service. Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Dont have to do that here either. Yeah, there's this thing called defederation. You could lose access to communities you've been actively posting in, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 days ago Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Fair. there's this thing called defederation You think email doesn't have defederation? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. You COULD use GPG in PMs, but then people have been encrypting their email for decades too. And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics to know where to sign up to be able to email the people you want to email. So I'd still say email is simpler to use. Maybe not simpler underneath on a technical level, but that doesn't matter to the end user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. Not hard at all. It's as simple as not collecting information that isn't strictly necessary to run the service. And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics Dont have to do that here either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Not hard at all. It’s as simple as not collecting information that isn’t strictly necessary to run the service. Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Dont have to do that here either. Yeah, there's this thing called defederation. You could lose access to communities you've been actively posting in, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 days ago Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Fair. there's this thing called defederation You think email doesn't have defederation? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Kinda hard to have anything private here without end to end encryption. Not hard at all. It's as simple as not collecting information that isn't strictly necessary to run the service. And with email you don't generally have to keep up with instance politics Dont have to do that here either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Not hard at all. It’s as simple as not collecting information that isn’t strictly necessary to run the service. Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Dont have to do that here either. Yeah, there's this thing called defederation. You could lose access to communities you've been actively posting in, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 days ago Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Fair. there's this thing called defederation You think email doesn't have defederation? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 days ago (1 child) Not hard at all. It’s as simple as not collecting information that isn’t strictly necessary to run the service. Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Dont have to do that here either. Yeah, there's this thing called defederation. You could lose access to communities you've been actively posting in, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 days ago Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Fair. there's this thing called defederation You think email doesn't have defederation? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 days ago Only guaranteed if you run your own instance Fair. there's this thing called defederation You think email doesn't have defederation? permalink fedilink source parent