▲ 505 ▼ Prosecute him (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 days ago by VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to c/enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world 79 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] makyo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 child) It’s here but pretty vague: https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-named-in-bombshell-election-meddling-claim-in-alex-gibney-documentary/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (4 children) Yeah that's all I've seen ever seen on this. There's nothing anything specific or substantial. Did he influence the Twitter algorithm to help Trump. Sure. And his offering to pay people to vote in general was likely illegal. But these aren't what people are alleging in these discussions. But the allegation is always that he somehow interfered with the actual votes and vote counting. You'll see bizarre tech-illiterate suggestions that he somehow hacked voting machines with lasers from spacex satellites. "Jewish space lasers" level of idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the This is a little different maybe? Still regarding the power supply's ability to wirelessly update. Still scares the hell out of me, article is worth a read. In March 2021, Leonard Leo—the judicial kingmaker behind the modern conservative legal machine—sold a quiet Chicago company by the name of Tripp Lite for $1.65 billion. The buyer: Eaton Corporation, a global power infrastructure conglomerate that just happened to have a partnership with Peter Thiel’s Palantir. To most, Tripp Lite was just a hardware brand selling battery backups, surge protectors, power strips, nothing to be concerned about. But in America’s elections, Tripp Lite devices were something else entirely. They are physically connected to ES&S central tabulators and Electionware servers, and Dominion tabulators and central servers across the country. And they aren’t dumb devices. They are smart UPS units—programmable, updatable, and capable of communicating directly with the election system via USB, serial port, or Ethernet. Through investigations, we already know that some ES&S and Dominion systems are equipped with modems. Their hollow assurances that modems are “not connected during critical periods” are irrelevant as this doesn’t make their systems any less hackable. Adding to this, ES&S systems—including central tabulators and Electionware servers—rely on Tripp Lite UPS devices. ES&S’s Electionware suite runs on Windows OS, which automatically trusts connected UPS hardware. Meaning if Eaton pushed an update to those UPS units, it could gain root-level access to the host tabulation environment without ever modifying certified election software. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (1 child) This interview goes deeper: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oJSOUyaJeV4 The basic argument is that the voting boxes get audited but not the ups, the uninterrupted power supply, and that can get over the air updates from starlink. Ashley St Clair makes a similar claim: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/elon-musk-s-ex-makes-explosive-claims-about-election-night-and-advanced-technology/ar-AA23I2dM All claims no evidence. Very difficult if not impossible to do forensic analysis on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 days ago (2 children) That just sounds completely tech illiterate. A UPS is just a battery. There's no integration with the actual electronics of a computer. This is just technobabble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) A UPS is just a battery. Something something tech illiteracy. If the UPS monitoring is plugged in via USB that’s all the attack vector needed. Good chance they had ethernet as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 day ago That would actually be easy to overlook in a large data center too. Those are not just batteries. There are at least some controls in it to report to monitoring and also to make all that abnoxious noise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago I mean I don't think either of us actually know that for these particular voting machines. There absolutely plenty of UPS systems where the system is in constant communication with its UPS. permalink fedilink source parent [–] architect 1 point 2 days ago All i know is that they pulled a bunch of us election volunteers off from watching that election. Also we just found out the jewish space lasers are real. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AmyAye@nord.pub 1 point 2 days ago I mean, Starlink was the backend for some voting sites wasn't it? Plus several voting sites in swing states had bomb threats. Did someone stay behind to keep an eye on the machines? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (4 children) Yeah that's all I've seen ever seen on this. There's nothing anything specific or substantial. Did he influence the Twitter algorithm to help Trump. Sure. And his offering to pay people to vote in general was likely illegal. But these aren't what people are alleging in these discussions. But the allegation is always that he somehow interfered with the actual votes and vote counting. You'll see bizarre tech-illiterate suggestions that he somehow hacked voting machines with lasers from spacex satellites. "Jewish space lasers" level of idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the This is a little different maybe? Still regarding the power supply's ability to wirelessly update. Still scares the hell out of me, article is worth a read. In March 2021, Leonard Leo—the judicial kingmaker behind the modern conservative legal machine—sold a quiet Chicago company by the name of Tripp Lite for $1.65 billion. The buyer: Eaton Corporation, a global power infrastructure conglomerate that just happened to have a partnership with Peter Thiel’s Palantir. To most, Tripp Lite was just a hardware brand selling battery backups, surge protectors, power strips, nothing to be concerned about. But in America’s elections, Tripp Lite devices were something else entirely. They are physically connected to ES&S central tabulators and Electionware servers, and Dominion tabulators and central servers across the country. And they aren’t dumb devices. They are smart UPS units—programmable, updatable, and capable of communicating directly with the election system via USB, serial port, or Ethernet. Through investigations, we already know that some ES&S and Dominion systems are equipped with modems. Their hollow assurances that modems are “not connected during critical periods” are irrelevant as this doesn’t make their systems any less hackable. Adding to this, ES&S systems—including central tabulators and Electionware servers—rely on Tripp Lite UPS devices. ES&S’s Electionware suite runs on Windows OS, which automatically trusts connected UPS hardware. Meaning if Eaton pushed an update to those UPS units, it could gain root-level access to the host tabulation environment without ever modifying certified election software. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (1 child) This interview goes deeper: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oJSOUyaJeV4 The basic argument is that the voting boxes get audited but not the ups, the uninterrupted power supply, and that can get over the air updates from starlink. Ashley St Clair makes a similar claim: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/elon-musk-s-ex-makes-explosive-claims-about-election-night-and-advanced-technology/ar-AA23I2dM All claims no evidence. Very difficult if not impossible to do forensic analysis on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 days ago (2 children) That just sounds completely tech illiterate. A UPS is just a battery. There's no integration with the actual electronics of a computer. This is just technobabble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) A UPS is just a battery. Something something tech illiteracy. If the UPS monitoring is plugged in via USB that’s all the attack vector needed. Good chance they had ethernet as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 day ago That would actually be easy to overlook in a large data center too. Those are not just batteries. There are at least some controls in it to report to monitoring and also to make all that abnoxious noise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago I mean I don't think either of us actually know that for these particular voting machines. There absolutely plenty of UPS systems where the system is in constant communication with its UPS. permalink fedilink source parent [–] architect 1 point 2 days ago All i know is that they pulled a bunch of us election volunteers off from watching that election. Also we just found out the jewish space lasers are real. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AmyAye@nord.pub 1 point 2 days ago I mean, Starlink was the backend for some voting sites wasn't it? Plus several voting sites in swing states had bomb threats. Did someone stay behind to keep an eye on the machines? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the This is a little different maybe? Still regarding the power supply's ability to wirelessly update. Still scares the hell out of me, article is worth a read. In March 2021, Leonard Leo—the judicial kingmaker behind the modern conservative legal machine—sold a quiet Chicago company by the name of Tripp Lite for $1.65 billion. The buyer: Eaton Corporation, a global power infrastructure conglomerate that just happened to have a partnership with Peter Thiel’s Palantir. To most, Tripp Lite was just a hardware brand selling battery backups, surge protectors, power strips, nothing to be concerned about. But in America’s elections, Tripp Lite devices were something else entirely. They are physically connected to ES&S central tabulators and Electionware servers, and Dominion tabulators and central servers across the country. And they aren’t dumb devices. They are smart UPS units—programmable, updatable, and capable of communicating directly with the election system via USB, serial port, or Ethernet. Through investigations, we already know that some ES&S and Dominion systems are equipped with modems. Their hollow assurances that modems are “not connected during critical periods” are irrelevant as this doesn’t make their systems any less hackable. Adding to this, ES&S systems—including central tabulators and Electionware servers—rely on Tripp Lite UPS devices. ES&S’s Electionware suite runs on Windows OS, which automatically trusts connected UPS hardware. Meaning if Eaton pushed an update to those UPS units, it could gain root-level access to the host tabulation environment without ever modifying certified election software. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (1 child) This interview goes deeper: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oJSOUyaJeV4 The basic argument is that the voting boxes get audited but not the ups, the uninterrupted power supply, and that can get over the air updates from starlink. Ashley St Clair makes a similar claim: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/elon-musk-s-ex-makes-explosive-claims-about-election-night-and-advanced-technology/ar-AA23I2dM All claims no evidence. Very difficult if not impossible to do forensic analysis on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 days ago (2 children) That just sounds completely tech illiterate. A UPS is just a battery. There's no integration with the actual electronics of a computer. This is just technobabble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) A UPS is just a battery. Something something tech illiteracy. If the UPS monitoring is plugged in via USB that’s all the attack vector needed. Good chance they had ethernet as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 day ago That would actually be easy to overlook in a large data center too. Those are not just batteries. There are at least some controls in it to report to monitoring and also to make all that abnoxious noise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago I mean I don't think either of us actually know that for these particular voting machines. There absolutely plenty of UPS systems where the system is in constant communication with its UPS. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 days ago (2 children) That just sounds completely tech illiterate. A UPS is just a battery. There's no integration with the actual electronics of a computer. This is just technobabble. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) A UPS is just a battery. Something something tech illiteracy. If the UPS monitoring is plugged in via USB that’s all the attack vector needed. Good chance they had ethernet as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 day ago That would actually be easy to overlook in a large data center too. Those are not just batteries. There are at least some controls in it to report to monitoring and also to make all that abnoxious noise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago I mean I don't think either of us actually know that for these particular voting machines. There absolutely plenty of UPS systems where the system is in constant communication with its UPS. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) A UPS is just a battery. Something something tech illiteracy. If the UPS monitoring is plugged in via USB that’s all the attack vector needed. Good chance they had ethernet as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 day ago That would actually be easy to overlook in a large data center too. Those are not just batteries. There are at least some controls in it to report to monitoring and also to make all that abnoxious noise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 day ago That would actually be easy to overlook in a large data center too. Those are not just batteries. There are at least some controls in it to report to monitoring and also to make all that abnoxious noise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago I mean I don't think either of us actually know that for these particular voting machines. There absolutely plenty of UPS systems where the system is in constant communication with its UPS. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] architect 1 point 2 days ago All i know is that they pulled a bunch of us election volunteers off from watching that election. Also we just found out the jewish space lasers are real. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 1 point 2 days ago I mean, Starlink was the backend for some voting sites wasn't it? Plus several voting sites in swing states had bomb threats. Did someone stay behind to keep an eye on the machines? permalink fedilink source parent