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liberals try to grasp material analysis challenge: impossible (thelemmy.club)
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Stupidest shit I seen all day lmao

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[–] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

Other than Anti-Duhring and Capital, what works in the m&e canon evolved into ML? I also think there's a major omission in this statement since The German Ideology has been commonly referenced by any ML I've had the privilege of discussing theory with.

The major theories that I'm aware of that Marx mostly abandons by Capital is the idea that socialism only develops out of Capitalism, and he kinda drops the theory of Lumpen Proles, although his class analysis in the 18th Brumaire is so insightful and important that I'd be reluctant to.say he completely abandoned this theory (although I used to kinda think that.)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    Im just saying that you can see the influence there Civil War had on Marx's later works. He realized that American slaves had much more in common with the proletariat than he previously saw (tacit abandonment of the concept of lumpenproletariat).

    He also saw that the working classes of both America and England were capable of understanding longer term goals that may be immediately harmful to them (striking to prevent the supply of raw material from a slave source).

    It has been a while since I've read the book though, so I'm a bit rusty. I just know that you get to see a lot of his internal thought processes hitting points that were later adopted by ML leaders.

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  • [–] 1 point 20 minutes ago

    Thanks for the recc, I've read Marx's letter (on behalf of the English IWMA) to Abraham Lincoln, but hadn't considered there was a collection of writings from that time. I think of the years before 1867 as Marx being like shut up in the library of England so yeah I'm curious about his correspondence and organizing outside of that work.

    Dubois mentions some early American Marxists before the civil war but said they didnt really know what to make of the issue of slavery. I'm actually not very aware of the early history of American Marxists, I don't know of any real serious showing of American Marxists until the St. Louis commune of 1877

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