▲ 201 ▼ Germany urges EU to cut Russians’ holiday visas and to introduce tighter limitations on Russian citizens entering the EU for tourism after sabotage attacks (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 weeks ago by MashedHobbits@lemy.lol to c/world@quokk.au 59 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Amuro_eat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) Is Ukraine not in Europe? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) It's culturallyeabout as European as Russia is. But before 2022, westerners usually didn't consider Ukraine as "European". That framing happened afterwards. Also, the original statement implied that Russia is supposedly at war with the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children) Oh come on, lets not be pedantic, do you honestly think russia isn't at war with the EU? Even if you define the terms and framing so it technically isn't we are talking about splitting hairs at this point in a way that is completely unproductive to a broader discussion. Insofar as russia is not at war with the EU it is because russia is incapable of taking on more than a single country or two at a time... not because russia's aims are inherently localized to whatever nation it is attacking currently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) Believe me: As a citizen of the EU, I would fucking notice if the EU was at war with Russia. The biggest attack on German infrastructure (for example) that happened since 2022 was actually carried out by Ukrainians (i.e. the Nord Stream explosion). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Wake the fuck up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago Aaaand we're at the level of covid cooks, congratulations. /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) It's culturallyeabout as European as Russia is. But before 2022, westerners usually didn't consider Ukraine as "European". That framing happened afterwards. Also, the original statement implied that Russia is supposedly at war with the EU. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children) Oh come on, lets not be pedantic, do you honestly think russia isn't at war with the EU? Even if you define the terms and framing so it technically isn't we are talking about splitting hairs at this point in a way that is completely unproductive to a broader discussion. Insofar as russia is not at war with the EU it is because russia is incapable of taking on more than a single country or two at a time... not because russia's aims are inherently localized to whatever nation it is attacking currently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) Believe me: As a citizen of the EU, I would fucking notice if the EU was at war with Russia. The biggest attack on German infrastructure (for example) that happened since 2022 was actually carried out by Ukrainians (i.e. the Nord Stream explosion). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Wake the fuck up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago Aaaand we're at the level of covid cooks, congratulations. /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children) Oh come on, lets not be pedantic, do you honestly think russia isn't at war with the EU? Even if you define the terms and framing so it technically isn't we are talking about splitting hairs at this point in a way that is completely unproductive to a broader discussion. Insofar as russia is not at war with the EU it is because russia is incapable of taking on more than a single country or two at a time... not because russia's aims are inherently localized to whatever nation it is attacking currently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) Believe me: As a citizen of the EU, I would fucking notice if the EU was at war with Russia. The biggest attack on German infrastructure (for example) that happened since 2022 was actually carried out by Ukrainians (i.e. the Nord Stream explosion). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Wake the fuck up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago Aaaand we're at the level of covid cooks, congratulations. /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) Believe me: As a citizen of the EU, I would fucking notice if the EU was at war with Russia. The biggest attack on German infrastructure (for example) that happened since 2022 was actually carried out by Ukrainians (i.e. the Nord Stream explosion). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Wake the fuck up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago Aaaand we're at the level of covid cooks, congratulations. /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Wake the fuck up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago Aaaand we're at the level of covid cooks, congratulations. /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago Aaaand we're at the level of covid cooks, congratulations. /s permalink fedilink source parent