▲ 118 ▼ TIL that Jesus Christ was probably born in 7–4 B.C. (thelemmy.club) submitted 10 hours ago* by ManfredMumpitz@feddit.org to c/til@lemmy.world 77 comments fedilink hide all child comments A man ahead of his time. source
[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 77 points 10 hours ago (4 children) But, the Bible says he died at age 34. Also, no one fucking knows. At all. It's all stories written long after the facts, and the "facts" were as likely just fiction. It's all bullshit. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] 20cello@lemmy.world 37 points 10 hours ago Adapted along the time to please the people in power permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hubi@feddit.org 13 points 9 hours ago (3 children) Nah, he walked over water and everything and it was great. I guess you had to be there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Jesus was way cool permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ixoid@aussie.zone 2 points 2 hours ago And he built my hotrod. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blah3166@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago and then everyone clapped permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 14 points 8 hours ago (1 child) I heard he walked on the water and then the water turned to wine and then they made babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 child) Can confirm, I was the water permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] remotedev@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago Pics or it didn't happen permalink fedilink source parent [–] idntknow@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 child) The guy in the bible who talked to a bush probably just did a bunch of mushrooms lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago I once knew a guy who did that and he wasn't even able to save himself, nor was he very big on "peace", "love thy neighbour" or "turn the othet cheek" stuff. He would stab you in dark alley if you crossed him. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ironpangolin29@lemmy.ca -13 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Okay. Look, it was documented, he was real, he existed. All the other stuff though, I'm not sure he did all that 😆. It's basically all church propaganda. I mean the church obviously had an agenda and they divined up a natural speaker/teacher of morals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 20 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 child) "Christ" as in the son of God as we read about in the Bible, "Christ" clearly did not exist. If there was an individual who served as the historic basis, that is something else entirely. It's like saying Christopher Robin or Carrol's Alice was a real person. Or the characters from Dante's Inferno. They are fictional reflections of people that exist not to tell us about the history of that potentially real person but for literary reasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Uair@autistics.life 7 points 9 hours ago (1 child) @jerkface @ironpangolin29 My take, and far as I know it's unique to me, is that Jesus existed, probably did some preaching, and was crucified. There were a lot of streetcorner ranters back then and the Romans did crucify a lot of people. And they were halfway decent about keeping records. The Jesus we know is a fiction created by the Romans to pacify the Jews. The Jews made shitty slaves but were awaiting a messiah so the Romans gave them one, but made him a wimp. A slave god. Be a good slave and you'll get a nice reward for it after you die. It would have worked, too, except the Romans didn't understand Jungian psychology. They didn't realize what a shadow self they were creating by insisting people emulate an archetype of pure empathy. Basically, I see Christianity as the result of social engineering from a couple millennia ago, and its worldwide dominance is due to its accidentally militaristic nature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago I always figured the apostles must have cast a new Jesus after the crucifixion. How many people really knew what he looked like, and hihard could it have been to find a doppelganger? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 37 points 10 hours ago Adapted along the time to please the people in power permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hubi@feddit.org 13 points 9 hours ago (3 children) Nah, he walked over water and everything and it was great. I guess you had to be there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Jesus was way cool permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ixoid@aussie.zone 2 points 2 hours ago And he built my hotrod. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blah3166@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago and then everyone clapped permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 14 points 8 hours ago (1 child) I heard he walked on the water and then the water turned to wine and then they made babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 child) Can confirm, I was the water permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] remotedev@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago Pics or it didn't happen permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Jesus was way cool permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ixoid@aussie.zone 2 points 2 hours ago And he built my hotrod. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blah3166@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago and then everyone clapped permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 14 points 8 hours ago (1 child) I heard he walked on the water and then the water turned to wine and then they made babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 child) Can confirm, I was the water permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] remotedev@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago Pics or it didn't happen permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 child) Can confirm, I was the water permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] remotedev@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago Pics or it didn't happen permalink fedilink source parent
[–] idntknow@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 child) The guy in the bible who talked to a bush probably just did a bunch of mushrooms lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago I once knew a guy who did that and he wasn't even able to save himself, nor was he very big on "peace", "love thy neighbour" or "turn the othet cheek" stuff. He would stab you in dark alley if you crossed him. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago I once knew a guy who did that and he wasn't even able to save himself, nor was he very big on "peace", "love thy neighbour" or "turn the othet cheek" stuff. He would stab you in dark alley if you crossed him. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ironpangolin29@lemmy.ca -13 points 9 hours ago (1 child) Okay. Look, it was documented, he was real, he existed. All the other stuff though, I'm not sure he did all that 😆. It's basically all church propaganda. I mean the church obviously had an agenda and they divined up a natural speaker/teacher of morals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 20 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 child) "Christ" as in the son of God as we read about in the Bible, "Christ" clearly did not exist. If there was an individual who served as the historic basis, that is something else entirely. It's like saying Christopher Robin or Carrol's Alice was a real person. Or the characters from Dante's Inferno. They are fictional reflections of people that exist not to tell us about the history of that potentially real person but for literary reasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Uair@autistics.life 7 points 9 hours ago (1 child) @jerkface @ironpangolin29 My take, and far as I know it's unique to me, is that Jesus existed, probably did some preaching, and was crucified. There were a lot of streetcorner ranters back then and the Romans did crucify a lot of people. And they were halfway decent about keeping records. The Jesus we know is a fiction created by the Romans to pacify the Jews. The Jews made shitty slaves but were awaiting a messiah so the Romans gave them one, but made him a wimp. A slave god. Be a good slave and you'll get a nice reward for it after you die. It would have worked, too, except the Romans didn't understand Jungian psychology. They didn't realize what a shadow self they were creating by insisting people emulate an archetype of pure empathy. Basically, I see Christianity as the result of social engineering from a couple millennia ago, and its worldwide dominance is due to its accidentally militaristic nature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago I always figured the apostles must have cast a new Jesus after the crucifixion. How many people really knew what he looked like, and hihard could it have been to find a doppelganger? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 20 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 child) "Christ" as in the son of God as we read about in the Bible, "Christ" clearly did not exist. If there was an individual who served as the historic basis, that is something else entirely. It's like saying Christopher Robin or Carrol's Alice was a real person. Or the characters from Dante's Inferno. They are fictional reflections of people that exist not to tell us about the history of that potentially real person but for literary reasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Uair@autistics.life 7 points 9 hours ago (1 child) @jerkface @ironpangolin29 My take, and far as I know it's unique to me, is that Jesus existed, probably did some preaching, and was crucified. There were a lot of streetcorner ranters back then and the Romans did crucify a lot of people. And they were halfway decent about keeping records. The Jesus we know is a fiction created by the Romans to pacify the Jews. The Jews made shitty slaves but were awaiting a messiah so the Romans gave them one, but made him a wimp. A slave god. Be a good slave and you'll get a nice reward for it after you die. It would have worked, too, except the Romans didn't understand Jungian psychology. They didn't realize what a shadow self they were creating by insisting people emulate an archetype of pure empathy. Basically, I see Christianity as the result of social engineering from a couple millennia ago, and its worldwide dominance is due to its accidentally militaristic nature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago I always figured the apostles must have cast a new Jesus after the crucifixion. How many people really knew what he looked like, and hihard could it have been to find a doppelganger? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Uair@autistics.life 7 points 9 hours ago (1 child) @jerkface @ironpangolin29 My take, and far as I know it's unique to me, is that Jesus existed, probably did some preaching, and was crucified. There were a lot of streetcorner ranters back then and the Romans did crucify a lot of people. And they were halfway decent about keeping records. The Jesus we know is a fiction created by the Romans to pacify the Jews. The Jews made shitty slaves but were awaiting a messiah so the Romans gave them one, but made him a wimp. A slave god. Be a good slave and you'll get a nice reward for it after you die. It would have worked, too, except the Romans didn't understand Jungian psychology. They didn't realize what a shadow self they were creating by insisting people emulate an archetype of pure empathy. Basically, I see Christianity as the result of social engineering from a couple millennia ago, and its worldwide dominance is due to its accidentally militaristic nature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago I always figured the apostles must have cast a new Jesus after the crucifixion. How many people really knew what he looked like, and hihard could it have been to find a doppelganger? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago I always figured the apostles must have cast a new Jesus after the crucifixion. How many people really knew what he looked like, and hihard could it have been to find a doppelganger? permalink fedilink source parent