▲ 624 ▼ Netherlands moves 86 tonnes of gold from US and Canada to UK (www.euronews.com) submitted 5 days ago by Tango@piefed.ca to c/world@lemmy.world 136 comments fedilink hide all child comments The transfer was carried out partially by buying and selling and partly by physically transferring gold, the Dutch national bank said.
[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 days ago (4 children) Why stop at the UK? Feels like they're teetering on the edge. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 days ago I think the idea is that it is good to have it spread out a bit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago (2 children) Because keeping your strategic reserves in your own country kinda defeats the purpose, and we don't have allies further west than the UK, on account of there not being any more land there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago This is Iceland erasure! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago (2 children) Do you feel like France or Germany would be too close/too involved in a potential of conflict to be safe? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago It comes down to how likely it is. The likelyhood of the Netherlands being invaded, but not germany or france, is a lot smaller than the Netherlands being invaded but not the UK. Because lets be real, if anyone is going to be attacking Europe, it'll be Russia, and they won't be coming via the sea. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago Money will always come before alliance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago* (2 children) If you think the UK isn't politically stable you've just been watching too much fox news. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 child) After Brexit and the UK following in the footsteps of just about every shitty thing the US does, I don't see how one could call them stable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago Farage, Boris... There are ugly undercurrents in British society and culture. I am throwing stones with sin here, because my country also struggles against those cuntdicks, but I've been there many times so I'm not speaking out of turn. Let's keep in mind that Putin has been funding right wing extremism and fanned polarity in Europe for the better part of three decades now. It shows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (2 children) Then again, how come your PMs only last an average of 6 months on the job before they get kicked out and are replaced before the replacement leaves in 6 months. Lettuce woman springs to mind, but holy shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) That's just how the UK political system is, it's not a sign of instability. We really do need to change our truly broken political system but that's more about fairness and an actual representative government, than it is protecting us from from fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (1 child) But that is a clear sign of instability, my man. I'm from Europe so I know what's up, and GB has been in turmoil since Thatcher. In fact you're Europe's USA as far as I'm concerned- you're basically OG USA really... I love the people, but you're still dealing with your colonial past and the structures of its old institutions still governing you. You're also a bunch of mad lads so I have hope for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago No it's since the 2008 crash. We fucked up our response to that. Austerity made everything worse. Immigrants and foreigners somehow get blamed for the state of things, and thus Brexit. Which again made everything worse still. All wrapped in 14y of bad Conservative government. Increasing corruption as it gets normalized. Labour has their work cut out for them, or it will be the far right next. (Because the right haven't done enough damage yet?) permalink fedilink source parent [–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) They're becoming more French? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago God forbid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago (2 children) Ooh, do tell - what's happening over here that I've missed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago* (3 children) The UK is sleepwalking towards fascism. Same as France and Germany. Not that the left isn't fighting tooth and nail against it but there is still a very strong pull towards authoritarian right wing politics and moderate centrists are not ready to stop licking oligarch boots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago (1 child) I don't know where you're getting this view from. Of course this right wing extremists, there always has been, but they're no more likely to achieve power now than they were 10 years ago. If anything trump's antics have brought their behavior into sharp relief. Since everyone can see how much of a disaster and extremist right-wing government would now be, because they're all exactly like Trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) I'm getting this view from the opinion polls that show the AfD ahead and LePen beating Mélenchon in the second round. And even though Burnham seems to enjoy a boost bringing him slightly ahead of Farage, this is the honeymoon period and I don't believe that he will break enough establishment eggs in a left populist direction to reverse the longer term trend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) The longer term trend being that the right-wing parties are ripping themselves apart you mean? You should watch some UK news, your information is quite out of date. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago I wish that was true. So Greens just won Dover, "yeah!" except..... if you add up the right parties, it is over 50%. So it's not actually good news. Plus there is still more left parties for the vote to be split over. I just hope the right can't consolidate, and that in fact anyone remotely sane on the right goes LibDem rather aligned at all with fascists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago Russian, and now American, money pouring into the far right nutters. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago Right wing extremism sponsored by Russia no less. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Wild over-financialization? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) As in vulture capitalism, or something else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 4 days ago As in the money in the UK is not freely flowing through the real economy, the one where money has a healthy velocity (eg the same pound flows from the carpenter to the baker to the electrician to the cafe worker and leaves everyone involved enriched by goods and services) Instead, the lion share of the money is tied up in London playing games with math. It's not even investments that create more economic activities... It's just making money on paper It means that while the GDP looks good on paper, the velocity of money continues to drop and the real economy is being starved It's also a severe problem in the US, but long story short, when the US economy pops the UK economy is going to also be thrown into chaos permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 days ago I think the idea is that it is good to have it spread out a bit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago (2 children) Because keeping your strategic reserves in your own country kinda defeats the purpose, and we don't have allies further west than the UK, on account of there not being any more land there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago This is Iceland erasure! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago (2 children) Do you feel like France or Germany would be too close/too involved in a potential of conflict to be safe? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago It comes down to how likely it is. The likelyhood of the Netherlands being invaded, but not germany or france, is a lot smaller than the Netherlands being invaded but not the UK. Because lets be real, if anyone is going to be attacking Europe, it'll be Russia, and they won't be coming via the sea. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago Money will always come before alliance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago This is Iceland erasure! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago (2 children) Do you feel like France or Germany would be too close/too involved in a potential of conflict to be safe? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago It comes down to how likely it is. The likelyhood of the Netherlands being invaded, but not germany or france, is a lot smaller than the Netherlands being invaded but not the UK. Because lets be real, if anyone is going to be attacking Europe, it'll be Russia, and they won't be coming via the sea. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago Money will always come before alliance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago It comes down to how likely it is. The likelyhood of the Netherlands being invaded, but not germany or france, is a lot smaller than the Netherlands being invaded but not the UK. Because lets be real, if anyone is going to be attacking Europe, it'll be Russia, and they won't be coming via the sea. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago Money will always come before alliance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago* (2 children) If you think the UK isn't politically stable you've just been watching too much fox news. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 child) After Brexit and the UK following in the footsteps of just about every shitty thing the US does, I don't see how one could call them stable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago Farage, Boris... There are ugly undercurrents in British society and culture. I am throwing stones with sin here, because my country also struggles against those cuntdicks, but I've been there many times so I'm not speaking out of turn. Let's keep in mind that Putin has been funding right wing extremism and fanned polarity in Europe for the better part of three decades now. It shows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (2 children) Then again, how come your PMs only last an average of 6 months on the job before they get kicked out and are replaced before the replacement leaves in 6 months. Lettuce woman springs to mind, but holy shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) That's just how the UK political system is, it's not a sign of instability. We really do need to change our truly broken political system but that's more about fairness and an actual representative government, than it is protecting us from from fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (1 child) But that is a clear sign of instability, my man. I'm from Europe so I know what's up, and GB has been in turmoil since Thatcher. In fact you're Europe's USA as far as I'm concerned- you're basically OG USA really... I love the people, but you're still dealing with your colonial past and the structures of its old institutions still governing you. You're also a bunch of mad lads so I have hope for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago No it's since the 2008 crash. We fucked up our response to that. Austerity made everything worse. Immigrants and foreigners somehow get blamed for the state of things, and thus Brexit. Which again made everything worse still. All wrapped in 14y of bad Conservative government. Increasing corruption as it gets normalized. Labour has their work cut out for them, or it will be the far right next. (Because the right haven't done enough damage yet?) permalink fedilink source parent [–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) They're becoming more French? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago God forbid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 child) After Brexit and the UK following in the footsteps of just about every shitty thing the US does, I don't see how one could call them stable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago Farage, Boris... There are ugly undercurrents in British society and culture. I am throwing stones with sin here, because my country also struggles against those cuntdicks, but I've been there many times so I'm not speaking out of turn. Let's keep in mind that Putin has been funding right wing extremism and fanned polarity in Europe for the better part of three decades now. It shows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago Farage, Boris... There are ugly undercurrents in British society and culture. I am throwing stones with sin here, because my country also struggles against those cuntdicks, but I've been there many times so I'm not speaking out of turn. Let's keep in mind that Putin has been funding right wing extremism and fanned polarity in Europe for the better part of three decades now. It shows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (2 children) Then again, how come your PMs only last an average of 6 months on the job before they get kicked out and are replaced before the replacement leaves in 6 months. Lettuce woman springs to mind, but holy shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) That's just how the UK political system is, it's not a sign of instability. We really do need to change our truly broken political system but that's more about fairness and an actual representative government, than it is protecting us from from fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (1 child) But that is a clear sign of instability, my man. I'm from Europe so I know what's up, and GB has been in turmoil since Thatcher. In fact you're Europe's USA as far as I'm concerned- you're basically OG USA really... I love the people, but you're still dealing with your colonial past and the structures of its old institutions still governing you. You're also a bunch of mad lads so I have hope for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago No it's since the 2008 crash. We fucked up our response to that. Austerity made everything worse. Immigrants and foreigners somehow get blamed for the state of things, and thus Brexit. Which again made everything worse still. All wrapped in 14y of bad Conservative government. Increasing corruption as it gets normalized. Labour has their work cut out for them, or it will be the far right next. (Because the right haven't done enough damage yet?) permalink fedilink source parent [–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) They're becoming more French? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago God forbid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) That's just how the UK political system is, it's not a sign of instability. We really do need to change our truly broken political system but that's more about fairness and an actual representative government, than it is protecting us from from fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (1 child) But that is a clear sign of instability, my man. I'm from Europe so I know what's up, and GB has been in turmoil since Thatcher. In fact you're Europe's USA as far as I'm concerned- you're basically OG USA really... I love the people, but you're still dealing with your colonial past and the structures of its old institutions still governing you. You're also a bunch of mad lads so I have hope for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago No it's since the 2008 crash. We fucked up our response to that. Austerity made everything worse. Immigrants and foreigners somehow get blamed for the state of things, and thus Brexit. Which again made everything worse still. All wrapped in 14y of bad Conservative government. Increasing corruption as it gets normalized. Labour has their work cut out for them, or it will be the far right next. (Because the right haven't done enough damage yet?) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (1 child) But that is a clear sign of instability, my man. I'm from Europe so I know what's up, and GB has been in turmoil since Thatcher. In fact you're Europe's USA as far as I'm concerned- you're basically OG USA really... I love the people, but you're still dealing with your colonial past and the structures of its old institutions still governing you. You're also a bunch of mad lads so I have hope for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago No it's since the 2008 crash. We fucked up our response to that. Austerity made everything worse. Immigrants and foreigners somehow get blamed for the state of things, and thus Brexit. Which again made everything worse still. All wrapped in 14y of bad Conservative government. Increasing corruption as it gets normalized. Labour has their work cut out for them, or it will be the far right next. (Because the right haven't done enough damage yet?) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago No it's since the 2008 crash. We fucked up our response to that. Austerity made everything worse. Immigrants and foreigners somehow get blamed for the state of things, and thus Brexit. Which again made everything worse still. All wrapped in 14y of bad Conservative government. Increasing corruption as it gets normalized. Labour has their work cut out for them, or it will be the far right next. (Because the right haven't done enough damage yet?) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) They're becoming more French? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago God forbid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago (2 children) Ooh, do tell - what's happening over here that I've missed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago* (3 children) The UK is sleepwalking towards fascism. Same as France and Germany. Not that the left isn't fighting tooth and nail against it but there is still a very strong pull towards authoritarian right wing politics and moderate centrists are not ready to stop licking oligarch boots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago (1 child) I don't know where you're getting this view from. Of course this right wing extremists, there always has been, but they're no more likely to achieve power now than they were 10 years ago. If anything trump's antics have brought their behavior into sharp relief. Since everyone can see how much of a disaster and extremist right-wing government would now be, because they're all exactly like Trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) I'm getting this view from the opinion polls that show the AfD ahead and LePen beating Mélenchon in the second round. And even though Burnham seems to enjoy a boost bringing him slightly ahead of Farage, this is the honeymoon period and I don't believe that he will break enough establishment eggs in a left populist direction to reverse the longer term trend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) The longer term trend being that the right-wing parties are ripping themselves apart you mean? You should watch some UK news, your information is quite out of date. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago I wish that was true. So Greens just won Dover, "yeah!" except..... if you add up the right parties, it is over 50%. So it's not actually good news. Plus there is still more left parties for the vote to be split over. I just hope the right can't consolidate, and that in fact anyone remotely sane on the right goes LibDem rather aligned at all with fascists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago Russian, and now American, money pouring into the far right nutters. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago Right wing extremism sponsored by Russia no less. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Wild over-financialization? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) As in vulture capitalism, or something else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 4 days ago As in the money in the UK is not freely flowing through the real economy, the one where money has a healthy velocity (eg the same pound flows from the carpenter to the baker to the electrician to the cafe worker and leaves everyone involved enriched by goods and services) Instead, the lion share of the money is tied up in London playing games with math. It's not even investments that create more economic activities... It's just making money on paper It means that while the GDP looks good on paper, the velocity of money continues to drop and the real economy is being starved It's also a severe problem in the US, but long story short, when the US economy pops the UK economy is going to also be thrown into chaos permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago* (3 children) The UK is sleepwalking towards fascism. Same as France and Germany. Not that the left isn't fighting tooth and nail against it but there is still a very strong pull towards authoritarian right wing politics and moderate centrists are not ready to stop licking oligarch boots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago (1 child) I don't know where you're getting this view from. Of course this right wing extremists, there always has been, but they're no more likely to achieve power now than they were 10 years ago. If anything trump's antics have brought their behavior into sharp relief. Since everyone can see how much of a disaster and extremist right-wing government would now be, because they're all exactly like Trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) I'm getting this view from the opinion polls that show the AfD ahead and LePen beating Mélenchon in the second round. And even though Burnham seems to enjoy a boost bringing him slightly ahead of Farage, this is the honeymoon period and I don't believe that he will break enough establishment eggs in a left populist direction to reverse the longer term trend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) The longer term trend being that the right-wing parties are ripping themselves apart you mean? You should watch some UK news, your information is quite out of date. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago I wish that was true. So Greens just won Dover, "yeah!" except..... if you add up the right parties, it is over 50%. So it's not actually good news. Plus there is still more left parties for the vote to be split over. I just hope the right can't consolidate, and that in fact anyone remotely sane on the right goes LibDem rather aligned at all with fascists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago Russian, and now American, money pouring into the far right nutters. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago Right wing extremism sponsored by Russia no less. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago (1 child) I don't know where you're getting this view from. Of course this right wing extremists, there always has been, but they're no more likely to achieve power now than they were 10 years ago. If anything trump's antics have brought their behavior into sharp relief. Since everyone can see how much of a disaster and extremist right-wing government would now be, because they're all exactly like Trump. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) I'm getting this view from the opinion polls that show the AfD ahead and LePen beating Mélenchon in the second round. And even though Burnham seems to enjoy a boost bringing him slightly ahead of Farage, this is the honeymoon period and I don't believe that he will break enough establishment eggs in a left populist direction to reverse the longer term trend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) The longer term trend being that the right-wing parties are ripping themselves apart you mean? You should watch some UK news, your information is quite out of date. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago I wish that was true. So Greens just won Dover, "yeah!" except..... if you add up the right parties, it is over 50%. So it's not actually good news. Plus there is still more left parties for the vote to be split over. I just hope the right can't consolidate, and that in fact anyone remotely sane on the right goes LibDem rather aligned at all with fascists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) I'm getting this view from the opinion polls that show the AfD ahead and LePen beating Mélenchon in the second round. And even though Burnham seems to enjoy a boost bringing him slightly ahead of Farage, this is the honeymoon period and I don't believe that he will break enough establishment eggs in a left populist direction to reverse the longer term trend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) The longer term trend being that the right-wing parties are ripping themselves apart you mean? You should watch some UK news, your information is quite out of date. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago I wish that was true. So Greens just won Dover, "yeah!" except..... if you add up the right parties, it is over 50%. So it's not actually good news. Plus there is still more left parties for the vote to be split over. I just hope the right can't consolidate, and that in fact anyone remotely sane on the right goes LibDem rather aligned at all with fascists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago* (1 child) The longer term trend being that the right-wing parties are ripping themselves apart you mean? You should watch some UK news, your information is quite out of date. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago I wish that was true. So Greens just won Dover, "yeah!" except..... if you add up the right parties, it is over 50%. So it's not actually good news. Plus there is still more left parties for the vote to be split over. I just hope the right can't consolidate, and that in fact anyone remotely sane on the right goes LibDem rather aligned at all with fascists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago I wish that was true. So Greens just won Dover, "yeah!" except..... if you add up the right parties, it is over 50%. So it's not actually good news. Plus there is still more left parties for the vote to be split over. I just hope the right can't consolidate, and that in fact anyone remotely sane on the right goes LibDem rather aligned at all with fascists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 point 4 days ago Russian, and now American, money pouring into the far right nutters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago Right wing extremism sponsored by Russia no less. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Wild over-financialization? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) As in vulture capitalism, or something else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 4 days ago As in the money in the UK is not freely flowing through the real economy, the one where money has a healthy velocity (eg the same pound flows from the carpenter to the baker to the electrician to the cafe worker and leaves everyone involved enriched by goods and services) Instead, the lion share of the money is tied up in London playing games with math. It's not even investments that create more economic activities... It's just making money on paper It means that while the GDP looks good on paper, the velocity of money continues to drop and the real economy is being starved It's also a severe problem in the US, but long story short, when the US economy pops the UK economy is going to also be thrown into chaos permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) As in vulture capitalism, or something else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 4 days ago As in the money in the UK is not freely flowing through the real economy, the one where money has a healthy velocity (eg the same pound flows from the carpenter to the baker to the electrician to the cafe worker and leaves everyone involved enriched by goods and services) Instead, the lion share of the money is tied up in London playing games with math. It's not even investments that create more economic activities... It's just making money on paper It means that while the GDP looks good on paper, the velocity of money continues to drop and the real economy is being starved It's also a severe problem in the US, but long story short, when the US economy pops the UK economy is going to also be thrown into chaos permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 4 days ago As in the money in the UK is not freely flowing through the real economy, the one where money has a healthy velocity (eg the same pound flows from the carpenter to the baker to the electrician to the cafe worker and leaves everyone involved enriched by goods and services) Instead, the lion share of the money is tied up in London playing games with math. It's not even investments that create more economic activities... It's just making money on paper It means that while the GDP looks good on paper, the velocity of money continues to drop and the real economy is being starved It's also a severe problem in the US, but long story short, when the US economy pops the UK economy is going to also be thrown into chaos permalink fedilink source parent