▲ 199 ▼ Android Central: Fairphone (Gen. 6+) with /e/OS (www.androidcentral.com) submitted 1 week ago by murena@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 56 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (5 children) Couldn't a guy with a gun force me to enter my pin? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 1 week ago (4 children) Would police threaten to kill you if you don't unlock your phone? Not likely. Would they just use your finger and say you agreed to unlock it? More likely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) Would police threaten to kill you if you don’t unlock your phone? Not likely. "If you don't enter your PIN in the next 10 seconds we'll 'accidentally' deport your daughter". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 1 week ago Yes, agencies with more power will have more ways to force you. CIA will be able to fly to a dark site and put a car battery to your balls until you give them the PIN. Normal cops during a traffic stop will not have much ways to influence you beyond detaining/arresting you but any cop will be able to take your hand and forcefully place your thumb on a fingerprint reader. And courts say it's legal. https://reason.com/2024/04/19/appeals-court-rules-that-cops-can-physically-make-you-unlock-your-phone/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) Police werent the first people that came to mind. Someone making you unlock your phone to steal your money was what I was thinking. However.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 1 week ago* Yes, steel pipe to the knee will work equally well against all unlock methods. Graphene OS is supposed to be extra secure to better protect you against tools used by government agencies and law enforcement. It's used by activists and such. IMHO using fingerprint on Graphene OS makes all this extra security meaningless because police can just force you to unlock and it will be legal: https://www.techtimes.com/articles/303768/20240418/court-rules-thumbprint-phone-unlocks-used-police-force.htm Police would not be able to unlock this phone if the guy used pattern unlock. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 1 week ago (4 children) Would police threaten to kill you if you don't unlock your phone? Not likely. Would they just use your finger and say you agreed to unlock it? More likely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) Would police threaten to kill you if you don’t unlock your phone? Not likely. "If you don't enter your PIN in the next 10 seconds we'll 'accidentally' deport your daughter". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 1 week ago Yes, agencies with more power will have more ways to force you. CIA will be able to fly to a dark site and put a car battery to your balls until you give them the PIN. Normal cops during a traffic stop will not have much ways to influence you beyond detaining/arresting you but any cop will be able to take your hand and forcefully place your thumb on a fingerprint reader. And courts say it's legal. https://reason.com/2024/04/19/appeals-court-rules-that-cops-can-physically-make-you-unlock-your-phone/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) Police werent the first people that came to mind. Someone making you unlock your phone to steal your money was what I was thinking. However.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 1 week ago* Yes, steel pipe to the knee will work equally well against all unlock methods. Graphene OS is supposed to be extra secure to better protect you against tools used by government agencies and law enforcement. It's used by activists and such. IMHO using fingerprint on Graphene OS makes all this extra security meaningless because police can just force you to unlock and it will be legal: https://www.techtimes.com/articles/303768/20240418/court-rules-thumbprint-phone-unlocks-used-police-force.htm Police would not be able to unlock this phone if the guy used pattern unlock. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) Would police threaten to kill you if you don’t unlock your phone? Not likely. "If you don't enter your PIN in the next 10 seconds we'll 'accidentally' deport your daughter". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 1 week ago Yes, agencies with more power will have more ways to force you. CIA will be able to fly to a dark site and put a car battery to your balls until you give them the PIN. Normal cops during a traffic stop will not have much ways to influence you beyond detaining/arresting you but any cop will be able to take your hand and forcefully place your thumb on a fingerprint reader. And courts say it's legal. https://reason.com/2024/04/19/appeals-court-rules-that-cops-can-physically-make-you-unlock-your-phone/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 1 week ago Yes, agencies with more power will have more ways to force you. CIA will be able to fly to a dark site and put a car battery to your balls until you give them the PIN. Normal cops during a traffic stop will not have much ways to influence you beyond detaining/arresting you but any cop will be able to take your hand and forcefully place your thumb on a fingerprint reader. And courts say it's legal. https://reason.com/2024/04/19/appeals-court-rules-that-cops-can-physically-make-you-unlock-your-phone/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) Police werent the first people that came to mind. Someone making you unlock your phone to steal your money was what I was thinking. However.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 1 week ago* Yes, steel pipe to the knee will work equally well against all unlock methods. Graphene OS is supposed to be extra secure to better protect you against tools used by government agencies and law enforcement. It's used by activists and such. IMHO using fingerprint on Graphene OS makes all this extra security meaningless because police can just force you to unlock and it will be legal: https://www.techtimes.com/articles/303768/20240418/court-rules-thumbprint-phone-unlocks-used-police-force.htm Police would not be able to unlock this phone if the guy used pattern unlock. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 1 week ago* Yes, steel pipe to the knee will work equally well against all unlock methods. Graphene OS is supposed to be extra secure to better protect you against tools used by government agencies and law enforcement. It's used by activists and such. IMHO using fingerprint on Graphene OS makes all this extra security meaningless because police can just force you to unlock and it will be legal: https://www.techtimes.com/articles/303768/20240418/court-rules-thumbprint-phone-unlocks-used-police-force.htm Police would not be able to unlock this phone if the guy used pattern unlock. permalink fedilink source parent