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[–] 42 points 3 weeks ago (24 children)

Same they they said about Millennials, but this is not a problem that the owner class wants to fix.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

    That's Part of the owner class solution.

    Poor people ought not to multiply and have a good Life, since they are about to be exterminated, by wars and finally through climate Change.

    The rich plan to genocide us.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago

    Capitalists cannot exist without workers. They in fact need larger populations to expand valorization of capital, and to have a reserve army of labor by which they can threaten the employed workers with replacement.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    then why do they keep complaining we arent having enough babies and gutting anything even tangentially related to birth control? they arent planning to genocide us they just want more dependent and disposable slaves for the profit mills.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    on of my school at had a faculty said the state uni Enrollment crisis was "birth rates", no its the lack of jobs for many degrees, discouraging future students to go the schools, also the schools lack career development options.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    Because birthing is a very dangerous act and endangers the mother mortally. If you wanted to genocide someone you'd start with the children and women, with a Lack of women the men will follow suit, because of lethal competition and the aforementioned wars.

    The lack of birth control is exactly exacerbating that.

    With a lack of birth control it is not the amount of workers that rise, bit the amount of dead women and children during the birth process.

    We are beyond the profit Phase of capitalism, they fell into AI psychosis and think they dont need us anymor, since soon AI can replace our necessity.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Birth rates fell significantly in the late 1800s, before modern birth control was an option.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago*

    And one key factor was that kids became a financial liability.

    That did not change in 200 years.

    You would think if the owning class was interested in many workers that this problem wouldve been Adresse by now.

    But birth rates continue to fall, while child mortally rises.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    you will call anything even remotely harmful to any group genocide

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    You will ignore any harm done to ajy group just so Things continue to seem okay?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    extermination based on anything other than race/genetics is not genocide. Making their lives miserable is not genocide. driving up suicide rates in their demographics is not genocide.

    These are all generally bad things but not genocide.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    Same as always, don't have kids you can't afford.

    Younger millennial and tool until my late 20s to buy a house with my partner. I would want to be comfortable knowing I can support them as an adult as well if necessary before having them.

    Largest concern by far is the mortgage, nothing else even close to compared to that as an expense. Without a mortgage we could work 3 days a month each and life would be easy.

    I was unemployed for a long time after leaving school before I could find something. I don't know how to get away from that fear of what if I lose my job and can't find another one after a few years and my savings run out?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    So you say with dont have kids you cant afford, poor people shouldnt have kids?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    Do you want a good life for them or not?

    And its probably more about stability than an absolute rich/poor number. I see plenty of people throwing money away and then complain about never having any money.

    Some monthly expenses I see - £250 on multiple food deliveries a week. £400 to constantly have a new car when the car they drove 3 cars ago is still working fine, while only commuting 2km to work. £80 on a phone.

    Stop doing that for 18 months and you have a pretty good house deposit in most of the country.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Do you want a good life for them or not?

    That's besides the point, of the owning class wanted me to have children, they wouldve find a way, for the common folk to be financially possible. The fact that poor people cannot afford children, even now, is part of their genocide against us and proofs the point.

    And its probably more about stability than an absolute rich/poor number. I see plenty of people throwing money away and then complain about never having any money.

    That is besides the fact that the ridiculous wealth Gap between the Epstein class and us is just too extreme. If the Gap was closed we could live Out lives/"throw away money" and still have children.

    Some monthly expenses I see - £250 on multiple food deliveries a week. £400 to constantly have a new car when the car they drove 3 cars ago is still working fine, while only commuting 2km to work. £80 on a phone.

    You see that? Do you know that they could use deliveries because they dont have the time? Or that their car was leased and they needed to give it back? Same with phones?

    Stop doing that for 18 months and you have a pretty good house deposit in most of the country.

    That still not Epstein class Levels rich which is the point. You are the best example how this system values your bank Account more than human Life. You proof with your Arguments that poor people should First steife for Money, before they propagate and with Money comes the addiction to Status and showing Off, which is often Times done by people who cannot afford, out of shame.

    Your whole comment proofs me right. You merely justified that poor people should be exterminated. Not by force, for now, but slowly through financial sterilization.

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  • [+] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I think it is more to try and have some amount of stability, rather than strictly how much you earn.

    I used to live on £8k (part time apprenticeship), way below the poverty line apparently but I wasn't really worrying about money either.

    Suppose it depends what you view poor as being. Some seem to view it as always being on the edge of running out of money at the end of each month. If that is the case then I wasn't poor despite only making £8k and I remember at the time hearing of people on over £25k who constantly were.

    Even when I was on near minimum wage a couple years ago (£25k) I didn't really know what to spend all my money on. Honestly? I still don't. Picked up some hobbies but there is only so much you can spend gardening, a fork and spade don't cost that much and plants turn into more plants for free. Allotment rent is like £50/year.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    There are also different degrees of poor. Or at least below what most consider middle class to be. What is someone who is financially comfortable but clearly working class? People in stable but fairly low income jobs - basically me tbh.

    My middle class friends view me as frugal. I say £24 for a pizza is crazy. Its flour and water with a topping of cheese and tomato. Yes, a plain margarita being sold for £24. Oh its "artisan sourdough" - fuck off, that is just some dough you left in the back of a cupboard for a week. I make my own sourdough because its cheaper than buying yeast.

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