▲ 22 ▼ Australia made cigarettes expensive to stop people smoking. Did it go too far? (www.abc.net.au) submitted 1 week ago by Yasm@programming.dev to c/australia@aussie.zone 32 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 0 points 6 days ago (1 child) That's not really how societal norms are maintained though. Why would a smoker have any more responsibility to correct the behavior of another smoker than a non-smoker would? If someone is walking their dog, are they expected to pick up all the poo from all the other dogs? When you're driving do you try to block others who might drive too fast? When you're at the park, do you intervene when you see someone enjoying a glass of wine in public? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] auzy1@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 child) Dog poo doesn't affect the health of other people. There is no second hand alcoholism And yes, when people drive like assholes like prepare to do a dangerous overtake, I'll move my car in a way so they know they can't try it. And I wont block speeding cars. I have called police a few times on cars going dangerously over the limit though Also, other dog owners are pissed off when people don't clean up the poo. Smokers have normalized leaving their trash on the ground and harming the health of others. And they don't care when other smokers do it. If smokers aren't going to protect non smokers, laws need to be used to do it for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 0 points 6 days ago (1 child) So in summary... you don't bother correcting the behavior of others at all, you just moan about it online and make up reasons why other people should fix the things you don't like about the world. Butts on the ground don't effect the health of others. There's already laws about where people are allowed to smoke in order to avoid harming others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] auzy1@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (1 child) Theres a dumb comment. "Oh cigarette butts on the ground don't affect your health" All the dipshits smoking in front of shops do, and vaping secretly indoors. Which is actually what I said. But nicotine is absorbed through the skin, so it's possible picking up cigarettes is exposing me to nicotine Looking forward to more smoking bans because entitled dipshit smokers aren't doing the right thing. They should be banned entirely. My point is that the smoking community doesn't seem to care that other smokers are breaking rules so why should anyone defend their rights to smoke permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 0 points 6 days ago I’m tired of cleaning up cigarette butts, even in parks. It might only be a few people doing it, but the rest of the smoking community aren’t holding them accountable Indeed, a stupid thing to say. You know you can just back down right? "Yeah ok, I guess there's not really a smoking community and it's kinda dumb to think that smokers will pick up butts. I just hate people smoking." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 child) Dog poo doesn't affect the health of other people. There is no second hand alcoholism And yes, when people drive like assholes like prepare to do a dangerous overtake, I'll move my car in a way so they know they can't try it. And I wont block speeding cars. I have called police a few times on cars going dangerously over the limit though Also, other dog owners are pissed off when people don't clean up the poo. Smokers have normalized leaving their trash on the ground and harming the health of others. And they don't care when other smokers do it. If smokers aren't going to protect non smokers, laws need to be used to do it for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 0 points 6 days ago (1 child) So in summary... you don't bother correcting the behavior of others at all, you just moan about it online and make up reasons why other people should fix the things you don't like about the world. Butts on the ground don't effect the health of others. There's already laws about where people are allowed to smoke in order to avoid harming others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] auzy1@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (1 child) Theres a dumb comment. "Oh cigarette butts on the ground don't affect your health" All the dipshits smoking in front of shops do, and vaping secretly indoors. Which is actually what I said. But nicotine is absorbed through the skin, so it's possible picking up cigarettes is exposing me to nicotine Looking forward to more smoking bans because entitled dipshit smokers aren't doing the right thing. They should be banned entirely. My point is that the smoking community doesn't seem to care that other smokers are breaking rules so why should anyone defend their rights to smoke permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 0 points 6 days ago I’m tired of cleaning up cigarette butts, even in parks. It might only be a few people doing it, but the rest of the smoking community aren’t holding them accountable Indeed, a stupid thing to say. You know you can just back down right? "Yeah ok, I guess there's not really a smoking community and it's kinda dumb to think that smokers will pick up butts. I just hate people smoking." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 0 points 6 days ago (1 child) So in summary... you don't bother correcting the behavior of others at all, you just moan about it online and make up reasons why other people should fix the things you don't like about the world. Butts on the ground don't effect the health of others. There's already laws about where people are allowed to smoke in order to avoid harming others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] auzy1@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (1 child) Theres a dumb comment. "Oh cigarette butts on the ground don't affect your health" All the dipshits smoking in front of shops do, and vaping secretly indoors. Which is actually what I said. But nicotine is absorbed through the skin, so it's possible picking up cigarettes is exposing me to nicotine Looking forward to more smoking bans because entitled dipshit smokers aren't doing the right thing. They should be banned entirely. My point is that the smoking community doesn't seem to care that other smokers are breaking rules so why should anyone defend their rights to smoke permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 0 points 6 days ago I’m tired of cleaning up cigarette butts, even in parks. It might only be a few people doing it, but the rest of the smoking community aren’t holding them accountable Indeed, a stupid thing to say. You know you can just back down right? "Yeah ok, I guess there's not really a smoking community and it's kinda dumb to think that smokers will pick up butts. I just hate people smoking." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (1 child) Theres a dumb comment. "Oh cigarette butts on the ground don't affect your health" All the dipshits smoking in front of shops do, and vaping secretly indoors. Which is actually what I said. But nicotine is absorbed through the skin, so it's possible picking up cigarettes is exposing me to nicotine Looking forward to more smoking bans because entitled dipshit smokers aren't doing the right thing. They should be banned entirely. My point is that the smoking community doesn't seem to care that other smokers are breaking rules so why should anyone defend their rights to smoke permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 0 points 6 days ago I’m tired of cleaning up cigarette butts, even in parks. It might only be a few people doing it, but the rest of the smoking community aren’t holding them accountable Indeed, a stupid thing to say. You know you can just back down right? "Yeah ok, I guess there's not really a smoking community and it's kinda dumb to think that smokers will pick up butts. I just hate people smoking." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 0 points 6 days ago I’m tired of cleaning up cigarette butts, even in parks. It might only be a few people doing it, but the rest of the smoking community aren’t holding them accountable Indeed, a stupid thing to say. You know you can just back down right? "Yeah ok, I guess there's not really a smoking community and it's kinda dumb to think that smokers will pick up butts. I just hate people smoking." permalink fedilink source parent