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Some men are skipping showers before dates to embrace a new trend called pheromone-maxxing (thelemmy.club)
submitted 9 hours ago by [M] to c/BrandNewSentence@lemmy.today
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[–] 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 child)

I don't have to like the science - it just needs to actually be relevant to the conversation (that is, people showering and using deodorant), and not a handful of essentially random studies dug up as flailing, ad-hoc support to a thread-wide crusade against basic hygeine.

Edit: To be more clear, if I hadn't already noticed all of your other comments spammed around the thread, I probably wouldn't have downvoted the studies you posted. It was the specific impression of disingenuously throwing any science you could at the wall and hoping it stuck that made me want to downvote.

Same reason I downvote most studies posted by vegans and creationists, actually - the distasteful practice of taking an ideological position and then trying to find/manufacture "science" to support it after the fact.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 child)

    Bro. Random? Aluminium HAZ negative effects on the brain. THIS IS RELEVANT.

    Whatever. It's not a crusade against hygiene. It's a position against people acting like not showering is the worst thing a man could do.

    I know that men can do so much worse that I do take offense at people focusing so much on something so trivial.

    Use your deodorant, antiperspirant, be happy. Just don't be a chud.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 hours ago* (1 child)

    It's relevant in the same way that equating using a salt scrub in the bath with death from directly eating a pound of table salt is relevant.

    "I really like using my salt scrub - it gives me super smooth skin." "Bro, sodium HAZ negative effects on the body. THIS IS RELEVANT."

    Also, I made a late edit to the above comment that might be of interest since this thread is originally about why I downvoted you.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 child)

    Science is always biased.

    I don't like eating aluminum. I like licking armpits. I am biased.

    I like the smell of ass and sweat. I don't like the smell of "fragance" that sticks to everything and smells for days like "lavender" or some.

    It's not personal, and you can choose to ignore the evidence I presented. I did so for your benefit (since you have a criterion of your own). We don't have to agree, except on one thing. Chuds suck because they're assholes, not because they stink.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago* (1 child)

    I don't like eating aluminum. I like licking armpits. I am biased.

    This is a very fair point that I admit I did not take into consideration.

    It's absolutely a reasonable position to not be in favor of anti-perspirant if it's likely you'd be in a position to ingest it, at least for your potential partners specifically.

    That said, I also think that's likely a minority position in the thread, enough so to warrant a disclaimer when you posted the original studies.

    This is especially the case if that fact is what your argument against using anti-perspirants is actually resting on, and you're not just trying to find post-hoc support of your dislike of anti-perspirants in general.

    It still doesn't really explain the studies about miners and zebrafish though.

    We don't have to agree, except on one thing. Chuds suck because they're assholes, not because they stink.

    The closest I can get is "Chuds suck because they're assholes, and the fact that some of them stink is a very small but valid additional reason to not want to be around them."

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  • [–] 1 point 54 minutes ago

    Thanks for the nuance.

    I respect people choosing to distance themselves from stinky people. That is very valid.

    I myself use this as filter, pedants and snobs steer clear of me by virtue of my stink. I am happy with this arrangement, and I assume they are too.

    We all win.

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