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[–] -3 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

If you have sat with the dying and been with them at the moment of passing you will understand that there is no courage in watching death. To suggest so is an insult to those with cherished dead.

Such tactics as these do not convince a person to embrace veganism; it seeks to shame them into being a part of it. Such tactics provoke ire over awe, and are ultimately self defeating; much as the provocative measures in the op.

Do you have the courage to make your case to the unconverted without guilt as your only ally?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

    Yeah man you're so enlightened for staying ignorant of the moral cost of your recreational dietary choices.

    Why do chuds immediately start writing like they're penning some missive in the east India trading company the moment they're called out? Is it a genetic memory of chuddiness?

    There is courage in watching death you cause or ignore, and there is also courage in watching the death of those who you are the witness and advocate for, or you know being there for someone's last moments.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    Ah, let's counter that.

    I write in an academic style because that is my profession - but I can understand this might be unusual to you.

    In your esteemed brilliance you've managed to conflate courage with a sense of justice, protectiveness, and compassion in a single paragraph. The courage of an action lies in the heart of the individual - not in the nature of the action. Your use of the word evokes only images of mindless zealotry - "be brave, do what I tell you".

    There isn't any more to be said here really; a consequence of your own actions. Such egregious arrogance has only harmed your cause - be better.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago (1 child)

    wait are you a vegan trying to tell other vegans how to do better messaging or a carnist?

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  • [–] 1 point 48 minutes ago

    I'm someone slowly transitioning to vegetarian who doesn't like watching a good cause get mangled by utter arses.

    I don't aim to go entirely vegan as I don't believe all animal products are immoral (honey, real free range eggs (a friend of mine used to keep chickens, and their life was wonderful), snake shed (great for gardens) etc). I've opted for a slow and sustainable transition to where I draw my moral lines as I prefer certain success over dramatic gestures

    This is how I was persuaded to make my changes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sVfTPaxRwk

    The posts I see on c/vegan have made this harder to do rather than easier, as they often denigrate the morality of those who choose to eat meat, and add to my doubts of the real morality of the movement. There are many folks in my life who eat meat who I judge to be morally superior to the shills I find on here.

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