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[–] -5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Excellent bait - but does it serve the vegan cause?

Judging from the responses in the comments, probably not.

It's a good post if you want to feel good about yourself though I guess?

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  • [–] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    At least one person has been brave enough to read at least one argument as a result. Are you brave enough to watch how pigs are killed?

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  • [–] -3 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    If you have sat with the dying and been with them at the moment of passing you will understand that there is no courage in watching death. To suggest so is an insult to those with cherished dead.

    Such tactics as these do not convince a person to embrace veganism; it seeks to shame them into being a part of it. Such tactics provoke ire over awe, and are ultimately self defeating; much as the provocative measures in the op.

    Do you have the courage to make your case to the unconverted without guilt as your only ally?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    Yeah man you're so enlightened for staying ignorant of the moral cost of your recreational dietary choices.

    Why do chuds immediately start writing like they're penning some missive in the east India trading company the moment they're called out? Is it a genetic memory of chuddiness?

    There is courage in watching death you cause or ignore, and there is also courage in watching the death of those who you are the witness and advocate for, or you know being there for someone's last moments.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Ah, let's counter that.

    I write in an academic style because that is my profession - but I can understand this might be unusual to you.

    In your esteemed brilliance you've managed to conflate courage with a sense of justice, protectiveness, and compassion in a single paragraph. The courage of an action lies in the heart of the individual - not in the nature of the action. Your use of the word evokes only images of mindless zealotry - "be brave, do what I tell you".

    There isn't any more to be said here really; a consequence of your own actions. Such egregious arrogance has only harmed your cause - be better.

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  • [–] 17 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    Notable case of Goomba fallacy.

    altr

    There surely are fire breathing anti capitalist types who have some personal animosity against vegans but it seems likely these are not always the same people.

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  • [–] 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

    Yes, clearly leftism is the complete and total enemy of vegans and vegetarians. Surely conservative and liberals will be the true allies. Stunning argument.

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  • [–] 6 points 18 hours ago

    I find leftist political events very isolating since rejecting carnism. It's hard to take people talking about fairness and humanitarianism seriously when they still have the flesh of vulnerable individuals stuck between their teeth. The whole time I'm there, that's all I'm thinking. But you know it's not going to be received well if you say anything...

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    [–] 52 points 1 day ago (15 children)

    Meanwhile “aggressive” vegan messaging just describes things for what they are, even downplaying them, because there is no way to describe the horrors in words

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  • [–] 15 points 20 hours ago*

    Vegan, speaking gently and matter-of-factly: “Using animal’s bodies for producing consumable goods involves rape, imprisonment, torture and murder. Leftists are anti-exploitation and anti-capitalist, and using living bodies for profit entails that.”

    Leftist, yelling in response: “StoP foRciNG yOUr beLiEfs On mE, vegan, veGaNisM iS a bouRgEOIs phIlOsopHy!”

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    [–] 11 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    And I thought vegans are normally considered to be part of the woke left, at least by every outsider...

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  • [–] 15 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    Hence the paradox of veganism, according to the right it's a woke leftist thing. That is until you hang out with woke leftists and they are like 'yeah, no we don't support veganism'.

    If there is one thing lemme has taught me is that there are a lot of prominent leftist vegans, but leftists in general do not support veganism, but very often are openly anti-vegan.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 day ago

    Im gonna go out on a limb here and say that these two statements are not coming out of the same people, and that "the left" is being employed here as a uselessly broad umbrella term including both actual leftists and liberals, as usual

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