what it says on the title, we just violate and parasitize humanity and i don't even know if we should be kept around if a global revolution actually happens

i honestly feel like our only use right now is sheer body count and to be harvested for resources in a post-rev world, the latter being punishment for what we've done to the world

am i correct or just pessimistic? forgive me if my thoughts come off as off-putting but my frustrations toward my species leaves me wanting the global south to have a proper form of revenge

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[–] [S] -5 points 4 days ago (1 child)

why not both though? if a westoid can try to dismantle the imperial core then we can also have the understanding to view ourselves as below humanity, that way the global south is helped while we understand our place in the world

i apologize if i come off as rude, i'm genuinely curious as to why properly loathing one's existence as the entity is used to dissolve imperialism seems to be disliked

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    the understanding to view ourselves as below humanity

    Dehumanizing yourself doesn't help other peoples who are being dehumanized. Again, this is trying to mimic the conditions of the oppressed to assuage guilt, not helping them live in better conditions.

    The west has a real problem with thinking itself special/uniquely talented/uniquely important/etc. Basically a huge ego problem on a system level as a side effect of the west being positioned as "better than" and its targets as "less than" in order to justify the exploitation and the killing and so on. Dismantling that does not mean reversing the polarity. For the westerner side of things, it means dismantling the systems of exploitation and coming back down to Earth; and yes, that includes when thinking of yourself as uniquely "evil" and needing punishment by association.

    If you, personally, have committed terrible crimes, you should try to make amends for those crimes, especially with the people those crimes most directly impacted. If you think you're to blame by association for every crime the empire has committed because it happens to be where you were born, you're still thinking with the western ego. But you don't need to shoulder the blame for things out of your control in order to want to liberate oppressed peoples and to take action towards that goal.

    i apologize if i come off as rude, i’m genuinely curious as to why properly loathing one’s existence as the entity is used to dissolve imperialism seems to be disliked

    I don't see it as rude, I'm just telling you, it is not a helpful or healthy train of thought. Let me put it this way: If you think loathing the empire as an entity is inseparable from loathing yourself, that shows how much you still identify with the empire as a part of you. But why would you? Are you working for its military or something? Do you feel kinship with committing genocide? What is it about the imperial practices that you still feel connected to? Identify those and unlearn them. Learn from the east, from Socialist China and others like them. Learn from those who have succeeded in liberation. It's a good anti-ego exercise to learn from the very sort of people who the west normally condemns as lesser and they have a lot they do well that the west as a whole ignores, or refuses to learn from, due to its insistence they are "savages".

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    the terrible crime is being born in the core and existing, i fear

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  • [–] 10 points 4 days ago

    And I'm telling you, that's how imperialists think when they want to justify their murderous policies; this is embedded in what the intelligentsia reproduces as cultural thought, from hundreds of years of colonialism, some of which developed into global imperialism. You're taking that lens and turning it inward, toward the imperial core.

    You're far from the first to do this and you won't be the last. Because changing loyalties doesn't instantly change your paradigm. But the good news is, it is possible to change your paradigm over time.

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