▲ 98 ▼ Supreme Court Allows Trump Plan to Restrict Mail-In Voting, for Now (www.nytimes.com) submitted 6 hours ago by CaptDust@sh.itjust.works to c/politics@lemmy.world 31 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -8 points 5 hours ago (2 children) Vote by mail only is genuinely insane to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 18 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Maybe you're falling for conservative propaganda then? We don't need to make the basic operations of democracy hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 hours ago* (1 child) We should have a universal day off to vote. I work in shipping, I see how shit gets lost, and it makes me believe that we should not find that a reasonable procedure. I also see the people that work in those kinds of industries... Propaganda is not what I've fallen for. You have real cases of conservative mail drivers dumping ballots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Which is why "mail only" states have a ballot tracker, abundant amounts of ballot drop boxes, and the ability to print ballots at home. In WA, you can cut out the mail service entirely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) And how do you prevent an abusive relative or relation from forcing you to vote in a specific way? The ballot should be done in a location where you know that no others can see or influence the vote coercively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 minutes ago We don't live in a place where we get a day off to vote, but we do have mail in voting which has proven to increase turnout. While the problems you've mentioned are real for some, the vast majority of mail in voters enjoy not having to stress about when they can vote because they're working three jobs - they can drop it off on the way to work. Mail in voting boosts how many people vote, full stop, and it's enough to counter non-federal influences like the ones you've mentioned here. Shitting on mail in voting is doing the republicans a favor, there's a reason they want to get rid of it, and it's not because of vote manipulation, abuse of voters, or dead people voting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 hour ago (1 child) It works really well and we have high turnout this way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 minutes ago You could also get turnout without any of the risk factors that come with voting by mail by utilizing 10 day voting periods, guaranteed day off for all non emergency workers on election day. Voting by mail reduces the privacy of the vote to others you know, especially those within your own household, which alone is highly problematic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 18 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Maybe you're falling for conservative propaganda then? We don't need to make the basic operations of democracy hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 hours ago* (1 child) We should have a universal day off to vote. I work in shipping, I see how shit gets lost, and it makes me believe that we should not find that a reasonable procedure. I also see the people that work in those kinds of industries... Propaganda is not what I've fallen for. You have real cases of conservative mail drivers dumping ballots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Which is why "mail only" states have a ballot tracker, abundant amounts of ballot drop boxes, and the ability to print ballots at home. In WA, you can cut out the mail service entirely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) And how do you prevent an abusive relative or relation from forcing you to vote in a specific way? The ballot should be done in a location where you know that no others can see or influence the vote coercively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 minutes ago We don't live in a place where we get a day off to vote, but we do have mail in voting which has proven to increase turnout. While the problems you've mentioned are real for some, the vast majority of mail in voters enjoy not having to stress about when they can vote because they're working three jobs - they can drop it off on the way to work. Mail in voting boosts how many people vote, full stop, and it's enough to counter non-federal influences like the ones you've mentioned here. Shitting on mail in voting is doing the republicans a favor, there's a reason they want to get rid of it, and it's not because of vote manipulation, abuse of voters, or dead people voting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 hours ago* (1 child) We should have a universal day off to vote. I work in shipping, I see how shit gets lost, and it makes me believe that we should not find that a reasonable procedure. I also see the people that work in those kinds of industries... Propaganda is not what I've fallen for. You have real cases of conservative mail drivers dumping ballots. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Which is why "mail only" states have a ballot tracker, abundant amounts of ballot drop boxes, and the ability to print ballots at home. In WA, you can cut out the mail service entirely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) And how do you prevent an abusive relative or relation from forcing you to vote in a specific way? The ballot should be done in a location where you know that no others can see or influence the vote coercively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 minutes ago We don't live in a place where we get a day off to vote, but we do have mail in voting which has proven to increase turnout. While the problems you've mentioned are real for some, the vast majority of mail in voters enjoy not having to stress about when they can vote because they're working three jobs - they can drop it off on the way to work. Mail in voting boosts how many people vote, full stop, and it's enough to counter non-federal influences like the ones you've mentioned here. Shitting on mail in voting is doing the republicans a favor, there's a reason they want to get rid of it, and it's not because of vote manipulation, abuse of voters, or dead people voting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Which is why "mail only" states have a ballot tracker, abundant amounts of ballot drop boxes, and the ability to print ballots at home. In WA, you can cut out the mail service entirely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) And how do you prevent an abusive relative or relation from forcing you to vote in a specific way? The ballot should be done in a location where you know that no others can see or influence the vote coercively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 minutes ago We don't live in a place where we get a day off to vote, but we do have mail in voting which has proven to increase turnout. While the problems you've mentioned are real for some, the vast majority of mail in voters enjoy not having to stress about when they can vote because they're working three jobs - they can drop it off on the way to work. Mail in voting boosts how many people vote, full stop, and it's enough to counter non-federal influences like the ones you've mentioned here. Shitting on mail in voting is doing the republicans a favor, there's a reason they want to get rid of it, and it's not because of vote manipulation, abuse of voters, or dead people voting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child) And how do you prevent an abusive relative or relation from forcing you to vote in a specific way? The ballot should be done in a location where you know that no others can see or influence the vote coercively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 minutes ago We don't live in a place where we get a day off to vote, but we do have mail in voting which has proven to increase turnout. While the problems you've mentioned are real for some, the vast majority of mail in voters enjoy not having to stress about when they can vote because they're working three jobs - they can drop it off on the way to work. Mail in voting boosts how many people vote, full stop, and it's enough to counter non-federal influences like the ones you've mentioned here. Shitting on mail in voting is doing the republicans a favor, there's a reason they want to get rid of it, and it's not because of vote manipulation, abuse of voters, or dead people voting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 minutes ago We don't live in a place where we get a day off to vote, but we do have mail in voting which has proven to increase turnout. While the problems you've mentioned are real for some, the vast majority of mail in voters enjoy not having to stress about when they can vote because they're working three jobs - they can drop it off on the way to work. Mail in voting boosts how many people vote, full stop, and it's enough to counter non-federal influences like the ones you've mentioned here. Shitting on mail in voting is doing the republicans a favor, there's a reason they want to get rid of it, and it's not because of vote manipulation, abuse of voters, or dead people voting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 hour ago (1 child) It works really well and we have high turnout this way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 minutes ago You could also get turnout without any of the risk factors that come with voting by mail by utilizing 10 day voting periods, guaranteed day off for all non emergency workers on election day. Voting by mail reduces the privacy of the vote to others you know, especially those within your own household, which alone is highly problematic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 minutes ago You could also get turnout without any of the risk factors that come with voting by mail by utilizing 10 day voting periods, guaranteed day off for all non emergency workers on election day. Voting by mail reduces the privacy of the vote to others you know, especially those within your own household, which alone is highly problematic. permalink fedilink source parent