▲ 839 ▼ Chinese video platform Bilibili is going global to challenge Youtube (www.engadget.com) submitted 1 week ago by artifex@piefed.zip to c/technology@lemmy.world 370 comments fedilink hide all child comments The China-centric video sharing platform is expanding with a new international app and an English version of its website -- with no identity verification (for now at least)
[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) What is the national security concern? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) Psychological operations and warfare, mainly disinformation campaigns akin to TikTok used to sway political sentiment in favor of authoritarians such as Trump. Equally bad: extreme data gathering, also akin to tiktok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago* (1 child) I guess. TikTok did raise awareness of the Gaza genocide and, by extension, create instability in the US. It also distanced the public from the US government's closest ally, Israel. https://www.theverge.com/features/761076/gaza-images-starvation-tiktok-ban permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 1 week ago* (1 child) It directly promoted GOP leading up to 2024 and even Trump by name: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/may/06/tiktok-pro-republican-algorithm-2024-election Then they did the exact same thing by promoting the AFD in Germany: https://globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/digital-threats/tiktok-and-x-recommend-pro-afd-content-to-non-partisan-users-ahead-of-the-german-elections/ This has NOT distanced the USA from Israel; they have never been closer. The GOP are pushing bills that will combine Israel military with the USA's. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago* (2 children) Brother, according to that logic, YouTube is a national security risk. I was refering to things the American govt labels as a national security risk to protect corporate interests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago Considering their company leadership backs Republicans which are harmful to US national security, yes permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) YouTube is run by a company within the USA. That does not compare to a company run by a hostile dictatorship's military. Nor has it had nearly the same impact: there was a 10 point shift among youth voters in favor of conservatives after TikTok, a complete reversal of a century old trend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Your argument is that TikTok creates a national security risk by directing users to right or alt-right leaning views. You are ignoring YT's documented past of doing this exact thing because "China bad". https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/01/29/276000/a-study-of-youtube-comments-shows-how-its-turning-people-onto-the-alt-right/ YouTube also funneled German users to that same alt-right party. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/07/world/europe/youtube-far-right-extremism.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) As an analogy: If an American kills an American it's a crime If a Chinese op kills an American it's warfare Perhaps stick to killing yourselves instead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) America is already doing more harm to itself than any external nation is, so you don't have to worry if you want it's people to suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) Ah yes, you say we should do multiple times more harm to people who commit self harm, is that your moral philosophy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) I see you are no longer interested in a rational discussion. Get blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago Why would I ever seem enthused to a discussion with a fascist? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) Psychological operations and warfare, mainly disinformation campaigns akin to TikTok used to sway political sentiment in favor of authoritarians such as Trump. Equally bad: extreme data gathering, also akin to tiktok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago* (1 child) I guess. TikTok did raise awareness of the Gaza genocide and, by extension, create instability in the US. It also distanced the public from the US government's closest ally, Israel. https://www.theverge.com/features/761076/gaza-images-starvation-tiktok-ban permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 1 week ago* (1 child) It directly promoted GOP leading up to 2024 and even Trump by name: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/may/06/tiktok-pro-republican-algorithm-2024-election Then they did the exact same thing by promoting the AFD in Germany: https://globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/digital-threats/tiktok-and-x-recommend-pro-afd-content-to-non-partisan-users-ahead-of-the-german-elections/ This has NOT distanced the USA from Israel; they have never been closer. The GOP are pushing bills that will combine Israel military with the USA's. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago* (2 children) Brother, according to that logic, YouTube is a national security risk. I was refering to things the American govt labels as a national security risk to protect corporate interests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago Considering their company leadership backs Republicans which are harmful to US national security, yes permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) YouTube is run by a company within the USA. That does not compare to a company run by a hostile dictatorship's military. Nor has it had nearly the same impact: there was a 10 point shift among youth voters in favor of conservatives after TikTok, a complete reversal of a century old trend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Your argument is that TikTok creates a national security risk by directing users to right or alt-right leaning views. You are ignoring YT's documented past of doing this exact thing because "China bad". https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/01/29/276000/a-study-of-youtube-comments-shows-how-its-turning-people-onto-the-alt-right/ YouTube also funneled German users to that same alt-right party. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/07/world/europe/youtube-far-right-extremism.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) As an analogy: If an American kills an American it's a crime If a Chinese op kills an American it's warfare Perhaps stick to killing yourselves instead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) America is already doing more harm to itself than any external nation is, so you don't have to worry if you want it's people to suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) Ah yes, you say we should do multiple times more harm to people who commit self harm, is that your moral philosophy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) I see you are no longer interested in a rational discussion. Get blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago Why would I ever seem enthused to a discussion with a fascist? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago* (1 child) I guess. TikTok did raise awareness of the Gaza genocide and, by extension, create instability in the US. It also distanced the public from the US government's closest ally, Israel. https://www.theverge.com/features/761076/gaza-images-starvation-tiktok-ban permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 1 week ago* (1 child) It directly promoted GOP leading up to 2024 and even Trump by name: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/may/06/tiktok-pro-republican-algorithm-2024-election Then they did the exact same thing by promoting the AFD in Germany: https://globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/digital-threats/tiktok-and-x-recommend-pro-afd-content-to-non-partisan-users-ahead-of-the-german-elections/ This has NOT distanced the USA from Israel; they have never been closer. The GOP are pushing bills that will combine Israel military with the USA's. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago* (2 children) Brother, according to that logic, YouTube is a national security risk. I was refering to things the American govt labels as a national security risk to protect corporate interests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago Considering their company leadership backs Republicans which are harmful to US national security, yes permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) YouTube is run by a company within the USA. That does not compare to a company run by a hostile dictatorship's military. Nor has it had nearly the same impact: there was a 10 point shift among youth voters in favor of conservatives after TikTok, a complete reversal of a century old trend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Your argument is that TikTok creates a national security risk by directing users to right or alt-right leaning views. You are ignoring YT's documented past of doing this exact thing because "China bad". https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/01/29/276000/a-study-of-youtube-comments-shows-how-its-turning-people-onto-the-alt-right/ YouTube also funneled German users to that same alt-right party. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/07/world/europe/youtube-far-right-extremism.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) As an analogy: If an American kills an American it's a crime If a Chinese op kills an American it's warfare Perhaps stick to killing yourselves instead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) America is already doing more harm to itself than any external nation is, so you don't have to worry if you want it's people to suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) Ah yes, you say we should do multiple times more harm to people who commit self harm, is that your moral philosophy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) I see you are no longer interested in a rational discussion. Get blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago Why would I ever seem enthused to a discussion with a fascist? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 1 week ago* (1 child) It directly promoted GOP leading up to 2024 and even Trump by name: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/may/06/tiktok-pro-republican-algorithm-2024-election Then they did the exact same thing by promoting the AFD in Germany: https://globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/digital-threats/tiktok-and-x-recommend-pro-afd-content-to-non-partisan-users-ahead-of-the-german-elections/ This has NOT distanced the USA from Israel; they have never been closer. The GOP are pushing bills that will combine Israel military with the USA's. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago* (2 children) Brother, according to that logic, YouTube is a national security risk. I was refering to things the American govt labels as a national security risk to protect corporate interests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago Considering their company leadership backs Republicans which are harmful to US national security, yes permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) YouTube is run by a company within the USA. That does not compare to a company run by a hostile dictatorship's military. Nor has it had nearly the same impact: there was a 10 point shift among youth voters in favor of conservatives after TikTok, a complete reversal of a century old trend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Your argument is that TikTok creates a national security risk by directing users to right or alt-right leaning views. You are ignoring YT's documented past of doing this exact thing because "China bad". https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/01/29/276000/a-study-of-youtube-comments-shows-how-its-turning-people-onto-the-alt-right/ YouTube also funneled German users to that same alt-right party. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/07/world/europe/youtube-far-right-extremism.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) As an analogy: If an American kills an American it's a crime If a Chinese op kills an American it's warfare Perhaps stick to killing yourselves instead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) America is already doing more harm to itself than any external nation is, so you don't have to worry if you want it's people to suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) Ah yes, you say we should do multiple times more harm to people who commit self harm, is that your moral philosophy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) I see you are no longer interested in a rational discussion. Get blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago Why would I ever seem enthused to a discussion with a fascist? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago* (2 children) Brother, according to that logic, YouTube is a national security risk. I was refering to things the American govt labels as a national security risk to protect corporate interests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago Considering their company leadership backs Republicans which are harmful to US national security, yes permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) YouTube is run by a company within the USA. That does not compare to a company run by a hostile dictatorship's military. Nor has it had nearly the same impact: there was a 10 point shift among youth voters in favor of conservatives after TikTok, a complete reversal of a century old trend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Your argument is that TikTok creates a national security risk by directing users to right or alt-right leaning views. You are ignoring YT's documented past of doing this exact thing because "China bad". https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/01/29/276000/a-study-of-youtube-comments-shows-how-its-turning-people-onto-the-alt-right/ YouTube also funneled German users to that same alt-right party. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/07/world/europe/youtube-far-right-extremism.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) As an analogy: If an American kills an American it's a crime If a Chinese op kills an American it's warfare Perhaps stick to killing yourselves instead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) America is already doing more harm to itself than any external nation is, so you don't have to worry if you want it's people to suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) Ah yes, you say we should do multiple times more harm to people who commit self harm, is that your moral philosophy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) I see you are no longer interested in a rational discussion. Get blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago Why would I ever seem enthused to a discussion with a fascist? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 point 1 week ago Considering their company leadership backs Republicans which are harmful to US national security, yes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) YouTube is run by a company within the USA. That does not compare to a company run by a hostile dictatorship's military. Nor has it had nearly the same impact: there was a 10 point shift among youth voters in favor of conservatives after TikTok, a complete reversal of a century old trend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Your argument is that TikTok creates a national security risk by directing users to right or alt-right leaning views. You are ignoring YT's documented past of doing this exact thing because "China bad". https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/01/29/276000/a-study-of-youtube-comments-shows-how-its-turning-people-onto-the-alt-right/ YouTube also funneled German users to that same alt-right party. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/07/world/europe/youtube-far-right-extremism.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) As an analogy: If an American kills an American it's a crime If a Chinese op kills an American it's warfare Perhaps stick to killing yourselves instead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) America is already doing more harm to itself than any external nation is, so you don't have to worry if you want it's people to suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) Ah yes, you say we should do multiple times more harm to people who commit self harm, is that your moral philosophy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) I see you are no longer interested in a rational discussion. Get blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago Why would I ever seem enthused to a discussion with a fascist? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Your argument is that TikTok creates a national security risk by directing users to right or alt-right leaning views. You are ignoring YT's documented past of doing this exact thing because "China bad". https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/01/29/276000/a-study-of-youtube-comments-shows-how-its-turning-people-onto-the-alt-right/ YouTube also funneled German users to that same alt-right party. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/07/world/europe/youtube-far-right-extremism.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) As an analogy: If an American kills an American it's a crime If a Chinese op kills an American it's warfare Perhaps stick to killing yourselves instead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) America is already doing more harm to itself than any external nation is, so you don't have to worry if you want it's people to suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) Ah yes, you say we should do multiple times more harm to people who commit self harm, is that your moral philosophy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) I see you are no longer interested in a rational discussion. Get blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago Why would I ever seem enthused to a discussion with a fascist? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) As an analogy: If an American kills an American it's a crime If a Chinese op kills an American it's warfare Perhaps stick to killing yourselves instead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) America is already doing more harm to itself than any external nation is, so you don't have to worry if you want it's people to suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) Ah yes, you say we should do multiple times more harm to people who commit self harm, is that your moral philosophy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) I see you are no longer interested in a rational discussion. Get blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago Why would I ever seem enthused to a discussion with a fascist? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) America is already doing more harm to itself than any external nation is, so you don't have to worry if you want it's people to suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) Ah yes, you say we should do multiple times more harm to people who commit self harm, is that your moral philosophy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) I see you are no longer interested in a rational discussion. Get blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago Why would I ever seem enthused to a discussion with a fascist? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago (1 child) Ah yes, you say we should do multiple times more harm to people who commit self harm, is that your moral philosophy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) I see you are no longer interested in a rational discussion. Get blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago Why would I ever seem enthused to a discussion with a fascist? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 child) I see you are no longer interested in a rational discussion. Get blocked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago Why would I ever seem enthused to a discussion with a fascist? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 1 week ago Why would I ever seem enthused to a discussion with a fascist? permalink fedilink source parent