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Fifa opens disciplinary proceedings against Argentina over Falklands banner and final chaos (www.theguardian.com)
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[+] -6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I might hate the Argentinian government and think that their team members acted horribly during the WC, but I’m not going to blame them for speaking out against colonizers stealing land halfway around the world. Hell, I’d go a step further and defend any Argentinian who killed British agents in that territory. Fuck colonialism and kill colonialists, always.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Ignorant.

    Brits were the first people on Falklands.

    Spain tried to take England’s possession.

    Argentina tried to annex the Falklands at gun point.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    You can have your opinion, but I abide by a belief system that is purely anti-colonial and anti-imperialist. I don’t believe that a nation can morally travel halfway around the world and legitimately claim land that doesn’t fall within its original borders. It’s bad when the UK does it, or the US, or France, Israel, Russia, Spain, etc. I firmly reject the concept of “Nobody’s Land” means that it’s up for the taking.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I didn’t express any opinions, only facts.

    And I’m sorry, but the world accepts terra nullus.

    I don’t believe you reject it as much as you assumed Britain colonized occupied or claimed land and are refusing to climb down from that mistaken assumption.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    The entire concept of Terra Nullus originated from the idea that a land was “uninhabited” if it didn’t have western control. I understand that the Faulkland Islands didn’t have an indigenous population, but I’d argue that of all parties involved, the Argentinians have a better claim since it was their territory that they administered after gaining independence from the Spanish.

    Whether it be Guam, Hawaii, Algeria, Gaza, and the West Bank, etc., it is immoral in my opinion for a nation to lay claim to land external to their original borders. By that rationale, the moon now belongs to the US because they got there first.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Just breathtakingly ignorant.

    Get out of your tankie bubble.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Colonialism requires a displaced native population. This is not the case.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    So if the US was to lay claim to the moon, it wouldn’t be colonizing the moon? What would we call it when a nation decides that land far away from their borders now belongs to them? Did Argentina not have people there after they achieved independence from the Spanish? Did the British not move in with a naval force and expel the Argentinians there agains their will only to replace them with British people? It’s no surprise that the UK is such a staunch defender of Israel. They act so much alike!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Did the British not move in with a naval force and expel the Argentinians there agains their will only to replace them with British people?

    No, they did not.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    So what did Captain James Onslow of the HMS Clio do in 1833 if not expel the Argentinian administrators of the islands?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Reassert British control over the islands. Also, they didn't expel anyone.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    “Reassert British control” of a territory that they took from the French and lost to the Spanish, halfway around the world.

    So Jose Maria Pinedo wasn’t forced to leave the island after the British Navy moved in a forced them to take down the Argentinian flag and replace it with the British one? Does Wikipedia not work where you are, or are you just reflexively defending imperialism without looking up to ensure what you’re saying is correct before you say it?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    So Jose Maria Pinedo wasn’t forced to leave the island after the British Navy moved in a forced them to take down the Argentinian flag and replace it with the British one?

    Neither Pinedo not the handful of people in the islands were expelled.

    Does Wikipedia not work where you are, or are you just reflexively defending imperialism without looking up to ensure what you’re saying is correct before you say it?

    Maybe you should read carefully what the Wikipedia article says.

    Regardless, this topic will never stop being funny. Turns out, there are people out there who sympathize with Spanish nobility turned colonizers, turned South American landowners, like they are any better than the British. I guess the same people support the US in the Spanish-American war.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I guess the United States owns the moon since they got there first and it was uninhabited when they landed and planted their flag first.

    Crazy that the tiny island of the UK somehow also has legitimate claim to land on the other side of the globe too and not the mainland nation that the island is closer to and which was then controlled by them when they got independence from the Spanish.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    I guess the United States owns the moon since they got there first and it was uninhabited when they landed and planted their flag first.

    I guess you have missed the last 50 years of diplomacy about outer space claims.

    Crazy that the tiny island of the UK somehow also has legitimate claim to land on the other side of the globe too and not the mainland nation that the island is closer to and which was then controlled by them when they got independence from the Spanish.

    Oh, you mean like Greenland?

    Just one slight difference of course, and that's the fact that Argentina didn't control the Falklands at the time.

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