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French civil servant drugged us to make us urinate on ourselves, say accusers (www.bbc.com)
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She felt uncomfortable telling Nègre that she wanted return to the office to use the toilet, so told him she was cold as an excuse to go back to the building. But she says he walked away, guiding them towards the banks of the River Seine, so she told him she needed to find a toilet urgently.

"He looked me right in the eye and said, 'Oh, do you need a wee?'

"I felt like a child. I thought it was really weird the way he looked at me, almost gleeful."

She says he directed her to the door of a storage cupboard under a bridge on the Seine and said: "You can do it here."

Now, Anaïs is one of nearly 250 women who believe Nègre drugged them in alleged incidents between 2009 and 2018, subjecting them to what is known as chemical submission, where drugs are used to gain control over someone.

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[–] 0 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

People outside of the US love to sneer and look down on us for electing a rapist pedophile. It's the entire fucking world that is run by rapists like these.

Not anywhere near as much as in the USA. Nor as high up, like at the very top level of elected politicians.

There may be some fucked up inbred royalty in Europe, and the French have always been kinda rape-y, but even this guy is just a civil servant and not an elected politician. There is no European or Asian Epstein level scandal that I have ever heard of. Have you? Strong accusations require strong evidence. Until that it’s just conspiracy theory.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    but even this guy is just a civil servant

    He's a civil servant. Enough said.

    Also going to completely ignore that Prince Andrew exists and still hasn't seen the inside of a jail cell for rape?

    and the French have always been kinda rape-y

    Oh yeah, no big deal. The French are always rapists, what the fuck? THIS IS A BIG DEAL ACROSS THE BOARD. Period.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    He's a civil servant. Enough said.

    Have you met a civil servant? Does it look like they run the world? And he also wasn’t elected.

    completely ignore that Prince Andrew exists and still hasn't seen the inside of a jail cell for rape?

    Uhm… can you at least try to read the comment you reply to? I specifically mentioned fucked up royalty in Europe.

    And they still aren’t elected. Nor are they politicians. Nor do they actually run a country.

    Also, please calm the fuck down. I’m disagreeing with your conspiracy theory. I’m not attacking you personally.

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    Edit to your edit: I never said it wasn’t a big deal because it seems to happen more often in France. You’re just trying to build a straw man here.

    Period.

    Yeah that’s not how that works. Like I said: strong accusations need strong evidence. This is not evidence at all.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    He's still in an HR role. He's been preying on women for decades. This doesn't happen unless the culture is permissive of it.

    There may be some fucked up inbred royalty in Europe, and the French have always been kinda rape-y, but even this guy is just a civil servant and not an elected politician. There is no European or Asian Epstein level scandal that I have ever heard of. Have you? Strong accusations require strong evidence. Until that it’s just conspiracy theory.

    The entirety of this paragraph is dismissive. You clearly haven't lived in the world as a woman to be perfectly honest.

    Civil servants literally work for the government. To say that this guy was allowed to operate like this for decades but it's not a reflection of the government or the country is wild.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    This doesn't happen unless the culture is permissive of it.

    More general statements that don’t mean anything, still not even weak evidence for your strong accusation.

    The entirety of this paragraph is dismissive. You clearly haven't lived in the world as a woman to be perfectly honest.

    Aaaand more logical fallacies. You clearly haven’t got any evidence for whatever claim you’re making, to be perfectly honest.

    Civil servants literally work for the government.

    Still not a politician. Still not elected. You elected the Epstein class into power. That hasn’t happened in the rest of the world. Period (to quote you).

    say that this guy was allowed to operate like this for decades but it's not a reflection of the government or the country is wild.

    No. Tripling down on a statement and attacking someone who disagrees with you over some conspiracy theory that you can’t back up for the life of you is what’s wild.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    That hasn’t happened in the rest of the world.

    The Epstein class doesn't exist only in the US.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Where is the European Epstein scandal then? The Asian? The Australian?

    You elected a fascist sex offender into your most important office. Don’t drag the rest of the world into this just because having elected him —twice even— makes you feel bad. Or tell me, who is the European or Asian Trump?

    Yes, sexual assault happens everywhere, but no, there is no evidence that the rest of the world is ruled by sex offenders as well.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    -Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

    -Sarah Ferguson

    -Ehud Barak

    -Miroslav Lajcak

    Just to name a few that were in the Epstein files and are not from the US. And that's just a handful of government officials.

    They were all protected as well. There were hundreds to thousands of people involved in the coverup and are still working to protect these powerful people.

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    just a handful of government officials.

    Indeed it is. And that is entirely my point. Whereas it’s your top level officials all you’ve got is a few elected lower politicians and a non-elected royal inbred like I already mentioned.

    A handful people are nowhere near proof of a conspiracy of:

    hundreds to thousands of people involved in the coverup

    … or that sexual predators have somehow worked their way to the top levels of the government in the entire world.

    Give yourself and the rest of the world a break America: you elected this guy and his gang of cronies. They are by far the worst government in the western world by every other metric available. Until you provide evidence to the contrary, let’s just assume they are also the worst by this one.

    Conspiracy theories about “the rest of the world is just as bad” are just helping to diminish how horrible they are, just like the “it’s both sides” tactic that MAGA uses to normalize their behaviour.

    Not only that, but creating conspiracy theories about sexual assault and diminishes the inhumanity that these crimes are and diminishes the horrors that actual victims have gone through.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    no evidence that the rest of the world is ruled by sex offenders as well.

    You are delusional if you think there are no other world leaders that have sexually assaulted or raped others.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 week ago

    You are delusional

    Sure.. you’re peddling conspiracy theories and I’m the delusional one…

    But no, I don’t think there are no other world leaders that have sexually assaulted or raped others. Nor have I claimed that. Another straw man.

    But again, there is no proof that it’s a worldwide problem anywhere nearly as much as in the USA.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    The Asian Trump is in a prison cell in The Hague. Hopefully they manage to convict him before USA Trump finishes his rugpull of the ICC.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    If you’re talking about Duterte, he is a sick fuck, but the charges of the ICC are murder and attempted murder.

    There are no charges of sexual assault, trafficking or any of the other things Trump or the current US administration has proven to be guilty of.

    This discussion isn’t about evil governments in general, but specifically sex crimes against women.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago (1 child)

    Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has confessed to sexually abusing a maid while he was a teenager, according to a report.

    In a speech on December 29, Duterte said that he had confessed to a priest going into a maid’s room while she slept and placing his fingers on her genitals, the BBC reported.

    The remarks were not unusual for Duterte, who has frequently come under fire for making statements that demean or encourage violence against women. Last June and July, women’s rights activists gathered in Manila to protest Duterte’s treatment of women, including his remarks that communist rebels should be “shot in the vagina.”

    You're wrong again.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 days ago* (1 child)

    Maybe I’m kinda wrong about this one, although I correctly stated that it was not part of his indictment.

    But you say:

    wrong again

    How was I wrong before? What proof have you brought to be able to claim this?

    Please refrain from conspiracy theories and actuality prove something for a change. This quadrupling down without a shred of evidence is becoming awkward.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago (1 child)

    This quadrupling down without a shred of evidence is becoming awkward.

    Only for you :)

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  • [–] -3 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    No u!

    Really? Are we in a fucking schoolyard here?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago (1 child)

    You're doing the equivalent of stomping your feet and putting your fingers in your ears and yelling "LA LA LA LA" to ignore the very real truths that men in power abuse it.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    The very real and actual truths for which you have absolutely not provide even the slightest sliver of evidence…

    Your government sucks. And the rest of the world doesn’t even come close. Deal with it and don’t use sexual abuse accusations as a way to make yourself feel less bad about it.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago (2 children)

    Deal with it and don’t use sexual abuse accusations as a way to make yourself feel less bad about it.

    You are fundamentally misunderstanding why I made that comment. It wasn't to relieve personal guilt.

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  • [+] -3 points 6 days ago* (2 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago (1 child)

    I think you’re a MAGA cultist posing as a leftist feminist woman, who has infiltrated a leftist forum and is spreading conspiracy theories about other world leaders. We all know Trump isn’t happy with them, especially his NATO allies. This way you’re both trying to normalize the behaviour of the Trump administration and discrediting other world leaders, paving the way for fascist Trump allies to take over.

    Hahahahahahahahaha

    HAAAAAHAHAhahahahaha

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  • [–] -3 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    That’s exactly what a MAGAt would say :))

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago (1 child)

    Sure, babe

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  • [–] -4 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    Please don’t use derogatory terms, thanks.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 days ago (1 child)

    It's a term of endearment, darling

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