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[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

Germany, one of the two countries mentioned

[-] mirshafie@europe.pub -4 points 23 hours ago

Germany's energy policy is dogshit and it's basically committing suicide. It's great that Germany is finally displacing some of its coal plants but killing your economy in the process is hardly an example of a successful transition to green energy. Good luck with your chemical and mechanical industries on wind and batteries.

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 19 hours ago

Germany's economy is doing fine though. Except for car manufacturers, but that's not due to renewables.

[-] mirshafie@europe.pub -2 points 19 hours ago

German car manufacturing is doing badly partly because they suppressed electrical or even hybrid tech, but also because of high energy prices.

High energy prices are partly caused by an irresponsible energy policy. The war in Ukraine is the other part.

High energy prices also affect Germany's two other staples, mechanical engineering and chemical engineering. The chemistry sector is flatlining.

For context, chemical separation methods alone account for roughly 20% of industrial energy consumption worldwide, and Germany is a major player in this field. So high energy prices have a very real impact which can not be offset onto the buyers forever - the factories will just relocate and once they're gone, they won't easily come back.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

German high energy prices are not result of abandoning expensive short term nuclear refurbishments. It is pure colonial extortion by US to force them into war on Russia, and buy US LNG. Global coal prices have risen as well as a result of EU LNG dependence. Any renewables mitigate those establishment energy costs. The one bad energy policy has is not letting industry participate in wholesale electricity markets. They are forced to use fixed rates.

[-] mirshafie@europe.pub 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Germany could have closed their coal plants decades ago and decided not to. Now it has decided to be a leech on France's and Sweden's nuclear. Yes nuclear is expensive, so I hope you won't be surprised when France and Sweden finally put their foot down and let Germany try to run their grid on wind, or pay a premium on baseload.

And yes it sucks that the USA stirred up shit in Ukraine, throwing Europe and especially Germany under the bus. Luckily Iran is taking care of that.

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