▲ 213 ▼ A 25-year-old Brazilian video patent just expired, ending a lingering legal headache for Linux (www.xda-developers.com) submitted 3 weeks ago by monica_b1998@lemmy.world to c/linux@programming.dev 29 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] username_1@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Is it somehow important for Linux? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 77 points 3 weeks ago* (4 children) No. It has never been a "legal headache", more of a bit of additional work for distro maintainers (to keep codecs separate from the rest of the distro) and a tiny inconvenience for users (they had to click an additional button after installing the distro). Nowadays it's almost entirely irrelevant. Unless you are in a tiny minority of users who need to play DivX-encoded video (a codec which is 25 years old at this point) for some reason, you don't need to care at all. Basically, this just made life of a few media horder nerds a tiny bit more convenient. Frankly i shouldn't be typing out a comment this long to even explain it... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 20 points 3 weeks ago* I guess it matters to some people who pirated 500 GB of movies using DC++ back in the day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) The one button in the installer you are remembering is actually unrelated. It's the gahnome people taking worst from winblows as usual and sticking with it after the last benefits die. This time it's the video codec system (instead of just using ffmpeg lul), they called it "gstreamer". If you try to install ALL gstreamer plugins, it will be some two digit gibibyte number (don't remember exactly). The button in the installer installs most popular plugins. Now, applications that try to use it will do anything but tell you what you are missing. Segfault, "whoopsie daisy unknown error", just hang around and so on and so forth. Chances are, it's not in dependencies either, recommended or required. One would think the ffmpeg plugin in the base set can do anything, but as it turns out it can't. For some reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago IIRC the reason gstreamer was split up this way was originally due to varying quality and legal status of plugins, so it was kinda related. permalink fedilink source parent [–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago Eh well, I appreciate you typing all that out as someone who remembers divx and xvid from long ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 weeks ago It has never been a “legal headache”, more of a bit of additional work for distro maintainers (to keep codecs separate from the rest of the distro) and a tiny inconvenience for users (they had to click an additional button after installing the distro). Was that ever? Whenever someone whined about codecs back in the day, I would just install mpv or vlc (which were and are in most official distro repos I know of) and call it a day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Not for linux itself, no, but for desktos distros it makes it hard to keep it fully open source and free of proprietary stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] username_1@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) I don't actually remember when it was the last time I heard about divx. 10-15 years ago? I think that the title is clickbait and overdramatization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] derek@infosec.pub 6 points 3 weeks ago It's an xda-dev article. Of course the title is over-dramatized clickbait. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 77 points 3 weeks ago* (4 children) No. It has never been a "legal headache", more of a bit of additional work for distro maintainers (to keep codecs separate from the rest of the distro) and a tiny inconvenience for users (they had to click an additional button after installing the distro). Nowadays it's almost entirely irrelevant. Unless you are in a tiny minority of users who need to play DivX-encoded video (a codec which is 25 years old at this point) for some reason, you don't need to care at all. Basically, this just made life of a few media horder nerds a tiny bit more convenient. Frankly i shouldn't be typing out a comment this long to even explain it... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 20 points 3 weeks ago* I guess it matters to some people who pirated 500 GB of movies using DC++ back in the day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) The one button in the installer you are remembering is actually unrelated. It's the gahnome people taking worst from winblows as usual and sticking with it after the last benefits die. This time it's the video codec system (instead of just using ffmpeg lul), they called it "gstreamer". If you try to install ALL gstreamer plugins, it will be some two digit gibibyte number (don't remember exactly). The button in the installer installs most popular plugins. Now, applications that try to use it will do anything but tell you what you are missing. Segfault, "whoopsie daisy unknown error", just hang around and so on and so forth. Chances are, it's not in dependencies either, recommended or required. One would think the ffmpeg plugin in the base set can do anything, but as it turns out it can't. For some reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago IIRC the reason gstreamer was split up this way was originally due to varying quality and legal status of plugins, so it was kinda related. permalink fedilink source parent [–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago Eh well, I appreciate you typing all that out as someone who remembers divx and xvid from long ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 weeks ago It has never been a “legal headache”, more of a bit of additional work for distro maintainers (to keep codecs separate from the rest of the distro) and a tiny inconvenience for users (they had to click an additional button after installing the distro). Was that ever? Whenever someone whined about codecs back in the day, I would just install mpv or vlc (which were and are in most official distro repos I know of) and call it a day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 20 points 3 weeks ago* I guess it matters to some people who pirated 500 GB of movies using DC++ back in the day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) The one button in the installer you are remembering is actually unrelated. It's the gahnome people taking worst from winblows as usual and sticking with it after the last benefits die. This time it's the video codec system (instead of just using ffmpeg lul), they called it "gstreamer". If you try to install ALL gstreamer plugins, it will be some two digit gibibyte number (don't remember exactly). The button in the installer installs most popular plugins. Now, applications that try to use it will do anything but tell you what you are missing. Segfault, "whoopsie daisy unknown error", just hang around and so on and so forth. Chances are, it's not in dependencies either, recommended or required. One would think the ffmpeg plugin in the base set can do anything, but as it turns out it can't. For some reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago IIRC the reason gstreamer was split up this way was originally due to varying quality and legal status of plugins, so it was kinda related. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago IIRC the reason gstreamer was split up this way was originally due to varying quality and legal status of plugins, so it was kinda related. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago Eh well, I appreciate you typing all that out as someone who remembers divx and xvid from long ago. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 weeks ago It has never been a “legal headache”, more of a bit of additional work for distro maintainers (to keep codecs separate from the rest of the distro) and a tiny inconvenience for users (they had to click an additional button after installing the distro). Was that ever? Whenever someone whined about codecs back in the day, I would just install mpv or vlc (which were and are in most official distro repos I know of) and call it a day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Not for linux itself, no, but for desktos distros it makes it hard to keep it fully open source and free of proprietary stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] username_1@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) I don't actually remember when it was the last time I heard about divx. 10-15 years ago? I think that the title is clickbait and overdramatization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] derek@infosec.pub 6 points 3 weeks ago It's an xda-dev article. Of course the title is over-dramatized clickbait. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] username_1@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) I don't actually remember when it was the last time I heard about divx. 10-15 years ago? I think that the title is clickbait and overdramatization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] derek@infosec.pub 6 points 3 weeks ago It's an xda-dev article. Of course the title is over-dramatized clickbait. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] derek@infosec.pub 6 points 3 weeks ago It's an xda-dev article. Of course the title is over-dramatized clickbait. permalink fedilink source parent