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The hustle that is parenthood (thelemmy.club)
submitted 1 month ago by [M] to c/childfree@lemmy.world
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[–] 22 points 1 month ago (13 children)

"Raising a kid is work" Its also voluntary lol. You dont get to have sympathy for a decision.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    My kids are more important than work or my coworkers. And so are my coworkers kids to them. Those who don't have kids get to take off just the same for any issue at my work so maybe my life is too good for this meme

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I mean somewhat a generalization. Still if you don't want to empathize with the parent you still should empathize with the kid, you can't just like leave the kid there unless you want to argue the kid should be taken away from this person which just feels cruel for both sides.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago* (7 children)

    "Raising a kid is work" Its also voluntary lol.

    That's like saying payments on your car financing are voluntary.

    Once you have made the decision the consequences are no longer voluntary.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    the consequences are however due the decision that you chose voluntarily.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago

    Ah, I remember distinctively how I got up in the morning and decided voluntarily to have a call from daycare "we're closed today". And I decided how my mother had a stroke and died, who would've taken the kids under those circumstances 😅👍

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Agreed. But this does not make the consequences voluntary. If it's your kid, you have to raise it.

    At the extreme, child neglect is a jailable offence.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    yes, you have to raise it from that point - due to a decision that you made on your own volition. you opted for that decision, knowing that it has consequences. so you have to deal with the consequences because of a choice, which was optional. in other words, these consequences are self-inflicted.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yes. Similarly putting a vacation on the credit card is a decision made on your own volition. But no-one is going to describe the consequential repayments as voluntary.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    you could have just chosen not to run your card that in the first place. especially if you're not in the position to deal with the consequences.

    likewise, having kids isn't "like a second work", it's caused by one's decision. you could have opted not to have them. it's purely a voluntary choice. why do the consequences for someone else's voluntary decision warrant others being forced to accomodate it or change their plans?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Having the kid is voluntary.

    Once you have one, rasing it is not.

    why do the consequences for someone else's voluntary decision warrant others being forced to accomodate it or change their plans?

    Ah. In this case your issue is with the employer not being able to plan or be flexible, not the person rasing the kid.

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