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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago (7 children) Vision is scope, but scope is visor? permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago I imagine it has to do with verb conjugation permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) I think what has happened here is that OOP has tripped up on what "vision" meant We seem to have gotten "scope" from Ancient Greek twice. One is σκοπέω (skopéō), which is a verb for "look at" or "examine", and the other is σκοπός (skopós), a noun for "watcher". So I can see how they'd get scope (verb) = vision and scope (noun) = visor Unfortunately the Latin word that we get vision from means "eyesight", which neither sense of scope works for. I think the appropriate old Greek word is ὅρᾱσῐς (hórāsĭs), so maybe remotorasis would be a better guess for "television" on this post (disclaimer, I'm not a linguist and also don't really know anything about Latin or Ancient Greek, I might be wrong) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IndigoGollum@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) It could also be that they chose "remotoscope" over "remotorasis" intentionally because the former is such a fun word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago* "scope" also fits in with how we already use that word, e.g. microscope/telescope/periscope. I'd wager most (non-indian, because i'd assume they don't use the latin/greek parts of english as much) english speakers could figure out what "remotoscope" means even completely devoid of context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skua@kbin.earth 1 point 2 months ago It's definitely the more fun option permalink fedilink source parent [–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago You can see the colors, right? It's swapping Greek roots for Latin roots... and vice versa. permalink fedilink source parent [+] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago I imagine it has to do with verb conjugation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) I think what has happened here is that OOP has tripped up on what "vision" meant We seem to have gotten "scope" from Ancient Greek twice. One is σκοπέω (skopéō), which is a verb for "look at" or "examine", and the other is σκοπός (skopós), a noun for "watcher". So I can see how they'd get scope (verb) = vision and scope (noun) = visor Unfortunately the Latin word that we get vision from means "eyesight", which neither sense of scope works for. I think the appropriate old Greek word is ὅρᾱσῐς (hórāsĭs), so maybe remotorasis would be a better guess for "television" on this post (disclaimer, I'm not a linguist and also don't really know anything about Latin or Ancient Greek, I might be wrong) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] IndigoGollum@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) It could also be that they chose "remotoscope" over "remotorasis" intentionally because the former is such a fun word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago* "scope" also fits in with how we already use that word, e.g. microscope/telescope/periscope. I'd wager most (non-indian, because i'd assume they don't use the latin/greek parts of english as much) english speakers could figure out what "remotoscope" means even completely devoid of context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skua@kbin.earth 1 point 2 months ago It's definitely the more fun option permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndigoGollum@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) It could also be that they chose "remotoscope" over "remotorasis" intentionally because the former is such a fun word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago* "scope" also fits in with how we already use that word, e.g. microscope/telescope/periscope. I'd wager most (non-indian, because i'd assume they don't use the latin/greek parts of english as much) english speakers could figure out what "remotoscope" means even completely devoid of context. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skua@kbin.earth 1 point 2 months ago It's definitely the more fun option permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago* "scope" also fits in with how we already use that word, e.g. microscope/telescope/periscope. I'd wager most (non-indian, because i'd assume they don't use the latin/greek parts of english as much) english speakers could figure out what "remotoscope" means even completely devoid of context. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skua@kbin.earth 1 point 2 months ago It's definitely the more fun option permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago You can see the colors, right? It's swapping Greek roots for Latin roots... and vice versa. permalink fedilink source parent