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Should political extremism, far-left or far-right, be an allowed part of Lemmy's Fediverse? (beehaw.org)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by to c/politics@beehaw.org
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I'm simply asking this question because of Lemmygrad.ml existing, and that there isn't a far-right equivalent of it yet. If Lemmygrad has any standing for its right to exist under free speech, where is the line drawn for other extremist political ideologies? If Holodomor skepticism is allowed, then what stops Holocaust skepticism? (as it is generally accepted the Holodomor was man-made). I'm simply wondering what gives far-left politics a right to promote such extremist views in the Fediverse, when their far-right counterparts would be Defederated in minutes.

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[–] 7 points 3 years ago* (5 children)

Should political extremism, far-left or far-right, be an allowed part of Lemmy’s Fediverse?

by design it literally cannot be "allowed" or "disallowed", it just Is and Can Be a part of the Fediverse. you as an individual have absolutely no control over who uses Lemmy or ActivityPub generally, in the same way Mastodon can't stop a community like Gab from using their software as long as they abide by the guidelines. also, there is a "far-right equivalent of Lemmygrad" (exploding-heads) and you're literally asking the body questions on an instance which defederates from lemmygrad (which many instances also do). this is such a perplexing set of questions in general.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (4 children)

    Account is 3 days old. Maybe the whole idea of Lemmy and the Fediverse is still perplexing to them? This response feels needlessly passive-aggressive; seems like maybe there's some room to afford grace?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago*

    This response feels needlessly passive-aggressive; seems like maybe there’s some room to afford grace?

    we've collectively spent like 6 hours today just trying to get the site up and functioning because Lemmy is nightmarish to work with, you're gonna have to forgive me a bit if i'm more blunt in fielding questions which have been litigated for as long as we've been here and get re-litigated on the time scale of every few days. this is a very played out discourse in general. i would encourage people to just lurk more to answer stuff like this

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    The post is a dog whistle. Far-right communities have existed and still exist, OP is misrepresenting the current status to paint one of the extremes as unfairly perjudiced by the other.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    Very extreme assumptions about me. I'm disabled and would be killed by any far-right government, if one were in power. I was just trying to ask a question: at what point does free speech end and dangerous ideas begin? I wasn't trying to say "hey, that's not fair!!! let racist timmy here if we're gonna have Lemmygrad :((", I was simply asking why any form of extremism is tolerated(and why there's some big deal about exploding heads, which I've just recently learned about, and far less talk about Lemmygrad). I personally don't feel either should be allowed on Lemmy, and that any instances pertaining to extremist ideology should be defederated. Also, I apologize for asking this question on Beehaw, of all Lemmy instances, when none of my arguments pertain to here; I feel my post would've been far better had I directly mentioned Lemmy.world/made this post on Lemmy.world. (which is still federated with Lemmygrad, if I am understanding things correctly)

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I personally don’t feel either should be allowed on Lemmy, and that any instances pertaining to extremist ideology should be defederated.

    i am pleased to report you've picked a good instance for this since this is more-or-less our policy.

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