β² 1005 βΌ In a universe of enshitification, Linux is one of the few things that consistently gets better. (thelemmy.club) submitted 3 weeks ago by yesman@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 200 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] palordrolap@fedia.io 82 points 3 weeks ago (11 children) Don't hate, but I actually like the GUI update manager in Mint. Β―\_(γ)_/Β― permalink fedilink source hideshow 22 child comments replies: [β] sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works 73 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) That just runs apt and prints it nicely to you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [β] untorquer@quokk.au 103 points 3 weeks ago That is exactly the sort of behavior every gui should do. permalink fedilink source parent [β] palordrolap@fedia.io 38 points 3 weeks ago Oh, I'm well aware. It's just that sometimes I like a cushion on my chair, you know? permalink fedilink source parent [β] wheezy@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 weeks ago It's so simple but it's huge for normies. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Steve@startrek.website 16 points 3 weeks ago Exactly what I expect it to do! permalink fedilink source parent [β] Damage@feddit.it 6 points 3 weeks ago Well, many of these softwares can't do that properly, so... permalink fedilink source parent [β] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I notice mine has updates outside of apt, but Iβve wondered if some are just duplicates that havenβt refreshed yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago It does also update Cinnamon add-ons (spices I think?) and Flatpaks, which apt doesn't handle permalink fedilink source parent [β] Buffalox@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) The key here IMO is that you decide both when and how. No such option with Windows, but if you like the GUI and are used to using that, I don't see why anyone of their right mind would have a problem with that. Personally I prefer to open a terminal and press the up key so I don't have to type the command again, it takes 30 times until I get to the correct command, so it's clearly slower, but hey we all have our little quirks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] nixx@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) history | grep ! You can do reverse search but Iβm too lazy to remember the sequence right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] ch00f@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago ctrl R then type Never tried history | grep though. Thanks for the tip! permalink fedilink source parent [β] juipeltje@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Oh thanks for this. I've been using history | grep $something for the longest time, but i always end up copy pasting the actual command cause i didn't remember how to invoke the number, and copy pasting is so quick that you end up never looking up how to do it properly lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] toynbee@piefed.social 1 point 2 weeks ago !${number} Though i don't know if that actually works while using a variable. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Junglist@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago Just use FZF (fuzzy search finder) with the CTRL+R keybind. permalink fedilink source parent [β] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago I got a new function for my bash aliases file lol permalink fedilink source parent [β] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago CTRL + R for history search permalink fedilink source parent [β] mesamunefire@piefed.social 13 points 3 weeks ago Its all the same under the hood. permalink fedilink source parent [β] lokalhorst@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children) I had the problem that all old kernel images were kept when updating through the GUI updater. This led to my root partition getting fuller and fuller*. I needed some really obscure commands to remove those old images, since then I only update via terminal. I guess it was some kind of bug, but for me as a standard user it was a really serious one. *I need to say I made the mistake of splitting root and home and giving the root partition only 40 GB, because I read internet advices about needing to change my distro frequently, turns out that was not the case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Peffse@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) same here, and I don't know how long ago you had this problem, but the GUI can handle that as well. If you click the View menu, and choose Linux Kernels, it'll give you a list of all installed and available kernels. You just need to click the "remove kernels" button and check the ones you no longer need for it to clean up. (There is an option to remove old kernels automatically in Preferences-Automation but it doesn't seem to work) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] lokalhorst@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago I don't quite remember what I set as this was more than half a year ago. But the images couldn't be removed as easily, also not from the GUI view, as they were somehow not registered in a certain list that should have shown them. And since then I just use the terminal out of habit. However I just found an article about Mint removing old kernels once a week automatically. permalink fedilink source parent [β] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago That's actually easier on regular Mint than LMDE, but the advanced Synaptic package manager works on both to remove old kernels. ... but they're adding a dedicated kernel management tool for both versions in the next releases if I understand their most recent blog correctly. Like the native Mint tools, it's basically a front-end to apt and related commands. permalink fedilink source parent [β] farvascw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago As a long time windows user who has switched to CachyOS, I agree, even get notifications about updates permalink fedilink source parent [β] twinnie@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago* I like a GUI updater but the Plasma Discover one is so shit, it errors almost every time. I keep it for updating the odd flatpak, etc, but I always have to update from the terminal first. permalink fedilink source parent [β] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) That's a front end on apt. You're just making it pretty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] palordrolap@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Permit me to repeat what I said to a similar reply: Oh, I'm well aware. It's just that sometimes I like a cushion on my chair, you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 2 points 2 weeks ago* I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying 'one of us'. The importamt difference between apt and windows update is not how pretty it is. You still update at your leisure in like three clicks, more if you want to be fiddly. You can choose to jot update this or that. If your connection is slow it will keep going while you go about your business and if you need to restart to finish anything it will tell you, rather than interrupting you with an implied 'but if you don't save every ten seconds you deserved this. Computer will be ready when its ready.' permalink fedilink source parent [β] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 point 2 weeks ago same for me permalink fedilink source parent [β] Obnomus@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago Why anyone will hate that? permalink fedilink source parent [β] Samsy@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago* And I love the pacman eating the progress bar on arch terminal. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Linearity@piefed.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago Shelly is amazing for Arch. Both CLI and GUI. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works 73 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) That just runs apt and prints it nicely to you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [β] untorquer@quokk.au 103 points 3 weeks ago That is exactly the sort of behavior every gui should do. permalink fedilink source parent [β] palordrolap@fedia.io 38 points 3 weeks ago Oh, I'm well aware. It's just that sometimes I like a cushion on my chair, you know? permalink fedilink source parent [β] wheezy@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 weeks ago It's so simple but it's huge for normies. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Steve@startrek.website 16 points 3 weeks ago Exactly what I expect it to do! permalink fedilink source parent [β] Damage@feddit.it 6 points 3 weeks ago Well, many of these softwares can't do that properly, so... permalink fedilink source parent [β] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I notice mine has updates outside of apt, but Iβve wondered if some are just duplicates that havenβt refreshed yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago It does also update Cinnamon add-ons (spices I think?) and Flatpaks, which apt doesn't handle permalink fedilink source parent
[β] untorquer@quokk.au 103 points 3 weeks ago That is exactly the sort of behavior every gui should do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] palordrolap@fedia.io 38 points 3 weeks ago Oh, I'm well aware. It's just that sometimes I like a cushion on my chair, you know? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] wheezy@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 weeks ago It's so simple but it's huge for normies. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Steve@startrek.website 16 points 3 weeks ago Exactly what I expect it to do! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Damage@feddit.it 6 points 3 weeks ago Well, many of these softwares can't do that properly, so... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I notice mine has updates outside of apt, but Iβve wondered if some are just duplicates that havenβt refreshed yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago It does also update Cinnamon add-ons (spices I think?) and Flatpaks, which apt doesn't handle permalink fedilink source parent
[β] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 weeks ago It does also update Cinnamon add-ons (spices I think?) and Flatpaks, which apt doesn't handle permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Buffalox@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) The key here IMO is that you decide both when and how. No such option with Windows, but if you like the GUI and are used to using that, I don't see why anyone of their right mind would have a problem with that. Personally I prefer to open a terminal and press the up key so I don't have to type the command again, it takes 30 times until I get to the correct command, so it's clearly slower, but hey we all have our little quirks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] nixx@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) history | grep ! You can do reverse search but Iβm too lazy to remember the sequence right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] ch00f@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago ctrl R then type Never tried history | grep though. Thanks for the tip! permalink fedilink source parent [β] juipeltje@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Oh thanks for this. I've been using history | grep $something for the longest time, but i always end up copy pasting the actual command cause i didn't remember how to invoke the number, and copy pasting is so quick that you end up never looking up how to do it properly lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] toynbee@piefed.social 1 point 2 weeks ago !${number} Though i don't know if that actually works while using a variable. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Junglist@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago Just use FZF (fuzzy search finder) with the CTRL+R keybind. permalink fedilink source parent [β] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago I got a new function for my bash aliases file lol permalink fedilink source parent [β] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago CTRL + R for history search permalink fedilink source parent
[β] nixx@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) history | grep ! You can do reverse search but Iβm too lazy to remember the sequence right now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] ch00f@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago ctrl R then type Never tried history | grep though. Thanks for the tip! permalink fedilink source parent [β] juipeltje@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Oh thanks for this. I've been using history | grep $something for the longest time, but i always end up copy pasting the actual command cause i didn't remember how to invoke the number, and copy pasting is so quick that you end up never looking up how to do it properly lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] toynbee@piefed.social 1 point 2 weeks ago !${number} Though i don't know if that actually works while using a variable. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Junglist@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago Just use FZF (fuzzy search finder) with the CTRL+R keybind. permalink fedilink source parent [β] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago I got a new function for my bash aliases file lol permalink fedilink source parent [β] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago CTRL + R for history search permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ch00f@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago ctrl R then type Never tried history | grep though. Thanks for the tip! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] juipeltje@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Oh thanks for this. I've been using history | grep $something for the longest time, but i always end up copy pasting the actual command cause i didn't remember how to invoke the number, and copy pasting is so quick that you end up never looking up how to do it properly lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] toynbee@piefed.social 1 point 2 weeks ago !${number} Though i don't know if that actually works while using a variable. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] toynbee@piefed.social 1 point 2 weeks ago !${number} Though i don't know if that actually works while using a variable. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Junglist@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago Just use FZF (fuzzy search finder) with the CTRL+R keybind. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago I got a new function for my bash aliases file lol permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago CTRL + R for history search permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mesamunefire@piefed.social 13 points 3 weeks ago Its all the same under the hood. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] lokalhorst@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children) I had the problem that all old kernel images were kept when updating through the GUI updater. This led to my root partition getting fuller and fuller*. I needed some really obscure commands to remove those old images, since then I only update via terminal. I guess it was some kind of bug, but for me as a standard user it was a really serious one. *I need to say I made the mistake of splitting root and home and giving the root partition only 40 GB, because I read internet advices about needing to change my distro frequently, turns out that was not the case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Peffse@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) same here, and I don't know how long ago you had this problem, but the GUI can handle that as well. If you click the View menu, and choose Linux Kernels, it'll give you a list of all installed and available kernels. You just need to click the "remove kernels" button and check the ones you no longer need for it to clean up. (There is an option to remove old kernels automatically in Preferences-Automation but it doesn't seem to work) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] lokalhorst@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago I don't quite remember what I set as this was more than half a year ago. But the images couldn't be removed as easily, also not from the GUI view, as they were somehow not registered in a certain list that should have shown them. And since then I just use the terminal out of habit. However I just found an article about Mint removing old kernels once a week automatically. permalink fedilink source parent [β] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago That's actually easier on regular Mint than LMDE, but the advanced Synaptic package manager works on both to remove old kernels. ... but they're adding a dedicated kernel management tool for both versions in the next releases if I understand their most recent blog correctly. Like the native Mint tools, it's basically a front-end to apt and related commands. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Peffse@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) same here, and I don't know how long ago you had this problem, but the GUI can handle that as well. If you click the View menu, and choose Linux Kernels, it'll give you a list of all installed and available kernels. You just need to click the "remove kernels" button and check the ones you no longer need for it to clean up. (There is an option to remove old kernels automatically in Preferences-Automation but it doesn't seem to work) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] lokalhorst@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago I don't quite remember what I set as this was more than half a year ago. But the images couldn't be removed as easily, also not from the GUI view, as they were somehow not registered in a certain list that should have shown them. And since then I just use the terminal out of habit. However I just found an article about Mint removing old kernels once a week automatically. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] lokalhorst@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago I don't quite remember what I set as this was more than half a year ago. But the images couldn't be removed as easily, also not from the GUI view, as they were somehow not registered in a certain list that should have shown them. And since then I just use the terminal out of habit. However I just found an article about Mint removing old kernels once a week automatically. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago That's actually easier on regular Mint than LMDE, but the advanced Synaptic package manager works on both to remove old kernels. ... but they're adding a dedicated kernel management tool for both versions in the next releases if I understand their most recent blog correctly. Like the native Mint tools, it's basically a front-end to apt and related commands. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] farvascw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago As a long time windows user who has switched to CachyOS, I agree, even get notifications about updates permalink fedilink source parent
[β] twinnie@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago* I like a GUI updater but the Plasma Discover one is so shit, it errors almost every time. I keep it for updating the odd flatpak, etc, but I always have to update from the terminal first. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) That's a front end on apt. You're just making it pretty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] palordrolap@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Permit me to repeat what I said to a similar reply: Oh, I'm well aware. It's just that sometimes I like a cushion on my chair, you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 2 points 2 weeks ago* I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying 'one of us'. The importamt difference between apt and windows update is not how pretty it is. You still update at your leisure in like three clicks, more if you want to be fiddly. You can choose to jot update this or that. If your connection is slow it will keep going while you go about your business and if you need to restart to finish anything it will tell you, rather than interrupting you with an implied 'but if you don't save every ten seconds you deserved this. Computer will be ready when its ready.' permalink fedilink source parent
[β] palordrolap@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Permit me to repeat what I said to a similar reply: Oh, I'm well aware. It's just that sometimes I like a cushion on my chair, you know? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 2 points 2 weeks ago* I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying 'one of us'. The importamt difference between apt and windows update is not how pretty it is. You still update at your leisure in like three clicks, more if you want to be fiddly. You can choose to jot update this or that. If your connection is slow it will keep going while you go about your business and if you need to restart to finish anything it will tell you, rather than interrupting you with an implied 'but if you don't save every ten seconds you deserved this. Computer will be ready when its ready.' permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 2 points 2 weeks ago* I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying 'one of us'. The importamt difference between apt and windows update is not how pretty it is. You still update at your leisure in like three clicks, more if you want to be fiddly. You can choose to jot update this or that. If your connection is slow it will keep going while you go about your business and if you need to restart to finish anything it will tell you, rather than interrupting you with an implied 'but if you don't save every ten seconds you deserved this. Computer will be ready when its ready.' permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Obnomus@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago Why anyone will hate that? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Samsy@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago* And I love the pacman eating the progress bar on arch terminal. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Linearity@piefed.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago Shelly is amazing for Arch. Both CLI and GUI. permalink fedilink source parent