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[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) as a Catholic, what permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) as a Catholic Why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) Why not? Let people do what they want. Catholicism has its issues but it's nowhere close to whatever the fuck american protestants or the other three billion denominations they came up with are doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) I'm not forbidding anything. Just curious. People often ask me why I'm an atheist, but most find it really odd or get defensive when I ask them back. I don't know why. It's easier to not believe. All the few answers I've got for faith have been wildly different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago I am catholic but pretty much only by the fact I am baptised and sometimes go to church (easter, christmas) but I am mostly just agnostic. Could not give a fuck about god. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 weeks ago systemic child abuse permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) Jesus Christ appointed Peter as the rock of his church (literally Cephas, meaning rock) and he told him to "feed my sheep". And he gave him the keys to heaven. (Why I chose Catholicism) We have a lot of historical and philosophical proof for the existence of Jesus Christ and his divinity, and a lot of proven miracles as well. (Why I have faith in Christ) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) So you chose it? I think you're the first Catholic convert I've met. And it was hearing / reading the recruitment of Peter that was the turning point? Was it something that resonated with you or was it something else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Yeah, I chose Catholicism. and Peter being given the keys to heaven and being the first Pope is undeniable proof of catholicism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I'm struggling to find anything that confirms Peter was a real person. If you just swallow the sacred history of the RCC and run with 'maybe the bible is true' but that works with loads of religions. You surely can't be reading the Book of Acts as history? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter all historical evidence suggests that Peter existed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago* He pops up in briefly in Marcion's first New Testament in around 140CE and then becomes some kinda patriarch figure in the later 27 book Catholic New Testament and via St Irenaeus. Scripture is awesome but for the love of God don't be reading the Catholic 27 book NT's like they are history textbooks. We have no idea who St Paul was or what he wrote either, it's fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mangobanana@discuss.online 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children) And don't forget the Bible was made up by a bunch of illiterate men who could barely read or write, basically playing the game of telephone with all the stories written in the Bible. Oh and a great way to control the masses is to make it a death cult, so you can do whatever you want on life, and as long as you "repent" you'll get into a perfect place with perfect people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 weeks ago repenting involves hating your sin and turning away from it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 point 2 weeks ago I'm a atheist, raised catholic. I agree religion is a bullshit method of control. But — Repenting isn't so easy, it's not only saying you're sorry for everything. You've gotta repent so hard you feel it in your soul, like it's gotta be physically and spiritually painful. You have to make God Himself believe you. And you have to be willing to accept any just punishment in return. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) as a Catholic Why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) Why not? Let people do what they want. Catholicism has its issues but it's nowhere close to whatever the fuck american protestants or the other three billion denominations they came up with are doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) I'm not forbidding anything. Just curious. People often ask me why I'm an atheist, but most find it really odd or get defensive when I ask them back. I don't know why. It's easier to not believe. All the few answers I've got for faith have been wildly different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago I am catholic but pretty much only by the fact I am baptised and sometimes go to church (easter, christmas) but I am mostly just agnostic. Could not give a fuck about god. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 weeks ago systemic child abuse permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) Jesus Christ appointed Peter as the rock of his church (literally Cephas, meaning rock) and he told him to "feed my sheep". And he gave him the keys to heaven. (Why I chose Catholicism) We have a lot of historical and philosophical proof for the existence of Jesus Christ and his divinity, and a lot of proven miracles as well. (Why I have faith in Christ) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) So you chose it? I think you're the first Catholic convert I've met. And it was hearing / reading the recruitment of Peter that was the turning point? Was it something that resonated with you or was it something else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Yeah, I chose Catholicism. and Peter being given the keys to heaven and being the first Pope is undeniable proof of catholicism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I'm struggling to find anything that confirms Peter was a real person. If you just swallow the sacred history of the RCC and run with 'maybe the bible is true' but that works with loads of religions. You surely can't be reading the Book of Acts as history? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter all historical evidence suggests that Peter existed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago* He pops up in briefly in Marcion's first New Testament in around 140CE and then becomes some kinda patriarch figure in the later 27 book Catholic New Testament and via St Irenaeus. Scripture is awesome but for the love of God don't be reading the Catholic 27 book NT's like they are history textbooks. We have no idea who St Paul was or what he wrote either, it's fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mangobanana@discuss.online 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children) And don't forget the Bible was made up by a bunch of illiterate men who could barely read or write, basically playing the game of telephone with all the stories written in the Bible. Oh and a great way to control the masses is to make it a death cult, so you can do whatever you want on life, and as long as you "repent" you'll get into a perfect place with perfect people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 weeks ago repenting involves hating your sin and turning away from it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 point 2 weeks ago I'm a atheist, raised catholic. I agree religion is a bullshit method of control. But — Repenting isn't so easy, it's not only saying you're sorry for everything. You've gotta repent so hard you feel it in your soul, like it's gotta be physically and spiritually painful. You have to make God Himself believe you. And you have to be willing to accept any just punishment in return. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) Why not? Let people do what they want. Catholicism has its issues but it's nowhere close to whatever the fuck american protestants or the other three billion denominations they came up with are doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) I'm not forbidding anything. Just curious. People often ask me why I'm an atheist, but most find it really odd or get defensive when I ask them back. I don't know why. It's easier to not believe. All the few answers I've got for faith have been wildly different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago I am catholic but pretty much only by the fact I am baptised and sometimes go to church (easter, christmas) but I am mostly just agnostic. Could not give a fuck about god. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baines@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 weeks ago systemic child abuse permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) I'm not forbidding anything. Just curious. People often ask me why I'm an atheist, but most find it really odd or get defensive when I ask them back. I don't know why. It's easier to not believe. All the few answers I've got for faith have been wildly different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago I am catholic but pretty much only by the fact I am baptised and sometimes go to church (easter, christmas) but I am mostly just agnostic. Could not give a fuck about god. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago I am catholic but pretty much only by the fact I am baptised and sometimes go to church (easter, christmas) but I am mostly just agnostic. Could not give a fuck about god. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) Jesus Christ appointed Peter as the rock of his church (literally Cephas, meaning rock) and he told him to "feed my sheep". And he gave him the keys to heaven. (Why I chose Catholicism) We have a lot of historical and philosophical proof for the existence of Jesus Christ and his divinity, and a lot of proven miracles as well. (Why I have faith in Christ) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) So you chose it? I think you're the first Catholic convert I've met. And it was hearing / reading the recruitment of Peter that was the turning point? Was it something that resonated with you or was it something else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Yeah, I chose Catholicism. and Peter being given the keys to heaven and being the first Pope is undeniable proof of catholicism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I'm struggling to find anything that confirms Peter was a real person. If you just swallow the sacred history of the RCC and run with 'maybe the bible is true' but that works with loads of religions. You surely can't be reading the Book of Acts as history? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter all historical evidence suggests that Peter existed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago* He pops up in briefly in Marcion's first New Testament in around 140CE and then becomes some kinda patriarch figure in the later 27 book Catholic New Testament and via St Irenaeus. Scripture is awesome but for the love of God don't be reading the Catholic 27 book NT's like they are history textbooks. We have no idea who St Paul was or what he wrote either, it's fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mangobanana@discuss.online 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children) And don't forget the Bible was made up by a bunch of illiterate men who could barely read or write, basically playing the game of telephone with all the stories written in the Bible. Oh and a great way to control the masses is to make it a death cult, so you can do whatever you want on life, and as long as you "repent" you'll get into a perfect place with perfect people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 weeks ago repenting involves hating your sin and turning away from it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 point 2 weeks ago I'm a atheist, raised catholic. I agree religion is a bullshit method of control. But — Repenting isn't so easy, it's not only saying you're sorry for everything. You've gotta repent so hard you feel it in your soul, like it's gotta be physically and spiritually painful. You have to make God Himself believe you. And you have to be willing to accept any just punishment in return. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) So you chose it? I think you're the first Catholic convert I've met. And it was hearing / reading the recruitment of Peter that was the turning point? Was it something that resonated with you or was it something else? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Yeah, I chose Catholicism. and Peter being given the keys to heaven and being the first Pope is undeniable proof of catholicism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I'm struggling to find anything that confirms Peter was a real person. If you just swallow the sacred history of the RCC and run with 'maybe the bible is true' but that works with loads of religions. You surely can't be reading the Book of Acts as history? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter all historical evidence suggests that Peter existed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago* He pops up in briefly in Marcion's first New Testament in around 140CE and then becomes some kinda patriarch figure in the later 27 book Catholic New Testament and via St Irenaeus. Scripture is awesome but for the love of God don't be reading the Catholic 27 book NT's like they are history textbooks. We have no idea who St Paul was or what he wrote either, it's fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Yeah, I chose Catholicism. and Peter being given the keys to heaven and being the first Pope is undeniable proof of catholicism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I'm struggling to find anything that confirms Peter was a real person. If you just swallow the sacred history of the RCC and run with 'maybe the bible is true' but that works with loads of religions. You surely can't be reading the Book of Acts as history? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter all historical evidence suggests that Peter existed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago* He pops up in briefly in Marcion's first New Testament in around 140CE and then becomes some kinda patriarch figure in the later 27 book Catholic New Testament and via St Irenaeus. Scripture is awesome but for the love of God don't be reading the Catholic 27 book NT's like they are history textbooks. We have no idea who St Paul was or what he wrote either, it's fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) I'm struggling to find anything that confirms Peter was a real person. If you just swallow the sacred history of the RCC and run with 'maybe the bible is true' but that works with loads of religions. You surely can't be reading the Book of Acts as history? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter all historical evidence suggests that Peter existed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago* He pops up in briefly in Marcion's first New Testament in around 140CE and then becomes some kinda patriarch figure in the later 27 book Catholic New Testament and via St Irenaeus. Scripture is awesome but for the love of God don't be reading the Catholic 27 book NT's like they are history textbooks. We have no idea who St Paul was or what he wrote either, it's fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter all historical evidence suggests that Peter existed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago* He pops up in briefly in Marcion's first New Testament in around 140CE and then becomes some kinda patriarch figure in the later 27 book Catholic New Testament and via St Irenaeus. Scripture is awesome but for the love of God don't be reading the Catholic 27 book NT's like they are history textbooks. We have no idea who St Paul was or what he wrote either, it's fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 1 point 2 weeks ago* He pops up in briefly in Marcion's first New Testament in around 140CE and then becomes some kinda patriarch figure in the later 27 book Catholic New Testament and via St Irenaeus. Scripture is awesome but for the love of God don't be reading the Catholic 27 book NT's like they are history textbooks. We have no idea who St Paul was or what he wrote either, it's fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mangobanana@discuss.online 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children) And don't forget the Bible was made up by a bunch of illiterate men who could barely read or write, basically playing the game of telephone with all the stories written in the Bible. Oh and a great way to control the masses is to make it a death cult, so you can do whatever you want on life, and as long as you "repent" you'll get into a perfect place with perfect people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 weeks ago repenting involves hating your sin and turning away from it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 point 2 weeks ago I'm a atheist, raised catholic. I agree religion is a bullshit method of control. But — Repenting isn't so easy, it's not only saying you're sorry for everything. You've gotta repent so hard you feel it in your soul, like it's gotta be physically and spiritually painful. You have to make God Himself believe you. And you have to be willing to accept any just punishment in return. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 weeks ago repenting involves hating your sin and turning away from it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 point 2 weeks ago I'm a atheist, raised catholic. I agree religion is a bullshit method of control. But — Repenting isn't so easy, it's not only saying you're sorry for everything. You've gotta repent so hard you feel it in your soul, like it's gotta be physically and spiritually painful. You have to make God Himself believe you. And you have to be willing to accept any just punishment in return. permalink fedilink source parent