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[-] Vikthor@piefed.world -2 points 1 day ago

No government can wage a war for twelve years against wishes of their own population.

[-] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

Damn, americans must love expensive insulin

[-] Krono@lemmy.today 28 points 1 day ago

How do you explain the US wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan?

The US population elected a president who was promising to end the Afghanistan War in 2008. That war ended in 2021. That's at least 12 years of war against the wishes of the majority.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

How do you explain the US wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan?

The Americans were asking for it. Did you see how they were dressed?

[-] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Good question. For most of those years (goes for both wars) they just straight up lied about how bad things were going. Then there's the propaganda. Holy hell, so much propaganda. Like not saying you're wrong by asking that question but there are ways of selling unpopular wars.

Added to this, capitalists fucking LOVE wars. And without breaking capitalism all they're really going to do about the majority coming out against war is say 'yeah, what the fuck are you gonna do about it then?'

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

capitalists fucking LOVE wars

Wait, I thought China was capitalist?

[-] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

How many Chinese billionaires are there again, I forgot

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, that's the idea! China is capitalist but

capitalists fucking LOVE wars

And China hasn't fired on a ship since 1988 and hasn't dropped a bomb in a conflict since 1989.

So is it that capitalists love wars or that China isn't capitalist? I'm confused

[-] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

The question itself is ridiculously reductive. Let's also not forget how China has ongoing border disputes with pretty much every neighbor that occasionally flare up, is expanding its reach in the South China Sea with artificial islands that serve as military outposts, is building up a massive navy and is in the process of modernizing its army.

The .ml explains a lot lol

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 hours ago

The question itself is ridiculously reductive

Says the person who says "China is imperialist" and "China is capitalist" and "All capitalists love war". Not reductive at all.

China has ongoing border disputes with pretty much every neighbor

Yup, pretty normal stuff for a country surrounded by borders and "international norms" defined by genocidal European imperialists.

is expanding its reach in the South China Sea with artificial islands that serve as military outposts

Against whom I wonder? https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/Article/3771407/us-navy-destroyer-conducts-freedom-of-navigation-operation-in-the-south-china-s/

is building up a massive navy and is in the process of modernizing its army

I wonder why?

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-american-pivot-to-asia/

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/us-replicator-drones-counter-china-military-mass

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2021-12-16/washington-preparing-wrong-war-china

[-] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

Lmfao ok buddy exactly the crashout I was hoping I'd see. Well done!

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Whatever you have to believe to help you feel better about yourself.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

History says you are so, so wrong. Indisputably wrong

[-] Vikthor@piefed.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Am I? In all those long conflicts the population was at first at least indifferent(Like the US in the Vietnam war or USSR in Afghanistan war) or outright supportive(Like the US in their Afghanistan war) and after the public opinion changed the wars quickly ended. On the other hand the tsar was deposed after less than 3 years of WWI.

[-] djsiete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

I remember smug Americans scolding third worlders for having dictators run their countries, proudly claiming that they themselves were just better, more democratically inclined, which ofc led them to living in democracies. The third worlders just didn't want democracy hard enough.

Now Trump is president and they just lay down and take it.

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