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[–] Snowies@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) How fucked are we? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] naught101@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) My intuitive answer is that the collapse of globalised industrial society seems fairly likely (as a result of the end of cheap liquid fuel if nothing else). What that looks like is highly dependent on how we respond - it's not a climate problem, it's a social problem. I don't think humans are going to go extinct, but a population crash seems likely. And we're taking out a tonne of other species. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycrisis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I would hazard that the the extintion of Mankind really depends on the innevitable water and food wars escalating out of control in the nuclear era or not. A lot of this shit (you also see it in Economics, as Inequality explodes and Social Mobility grinds to a halt) can escalate out of control via the reactions of Human Societies to it (just look at the rise of the Far Right in response to the above mentioned trends in Inequality and Social Mobility). As I see it, people's and countries' reaction to the problems caused by Climate Change are were the nastiest of nasty shit can come out from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yep, plausible, but again, that's a social problem. It's super interesting, but not something a climate scientist can really speak to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) I would say that the ultimate impact on Mankind of Climate Change is itself outside the scope of Climatology by itself - by its own nature it would be an interdisciplinary effort involving at the very least Climatologists, Sociologists and Economists. That said, anybody can, as non-expert, mention some possibilities, though obviously not claiming any authoritativeness on the subject. (That's what I tried to do, hence why I began by saying it was just my "hazarding"). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago Yep, agree! That first paragraph is where I'm at now, trying to work with social scientists, business people, economists, who ever is keen. That interdisciplinary/transdisciplinary work is suuuuper interesting and fun and fucking hard. Also I'm just opinionated in general, you know? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] naught101@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) My intuitive answer is that the collapse of globalised industrial society seems fairly likely (as a result of the end of cheap liquid fuel if nothing else). What that looks like is highly dependent on how we respond - it's not a climate problem, it's a social problem. I don't think humans are going to go extinct, but a population crash seems likely. And we're taking out a tonne of other species. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycrisis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I would hazard that the the extintion of Mankind really depends on the innevitable water and food wars escalating out of control in the nuclear era or not. A lot of this shit (you also see it in Economics, as Inequality explodes and Social Mobility grinds to a halt) can escalate out of control via the reactions of Human Societies to it (just look at the rise of the Far Right in response to the above mentioned trends in Inequality and Social Mobility). As I see it, people's and countries' reaction to the problems caused by Climate Change are were the nastiest of nasty shit can come out from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yep, plausible, but again, that's a social problem. It's super interesting, but not something a climate scientist can really speak to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) I would say that the ultimate impact on Mankind of Climate Change is itself outside the scope of Climatology by itself - by its own nature it would be an interdisciplinary effort involving at the very least Climatologists, Sociologists and Economists. That said, anybody can, as non-expert, mention some possibilities, though obviously not claiming any authoritativeness on the subject. (That's what I tried to do, hence why I began by saying it was just my "hazarding"). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago Yep, agree! That first paragraph is where I'm at now, trying to work with social scientists, business people, economists, who ever is keen. That interdisciplinary/transdisciplinary work is suuuuper interesting and fun and fucking hard. Also I'm just opinionated in general, you know? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I would hazard that the the extintion of Mankind really depends on the innevitable water and food wars escalating out of control in the nuclear era or not. A lot of this shit (you also see it in Economics, as Inequality explodes and Social Mobility grinds to a halt) can escalate out of control via the reactions of Human Societies to it (just look at the rise of the Far Right in response to the above mentioned trends in Inequality and Social Mobility). As I see it, people's and countries' reaction to the problems caused by Climate Change are were the nastiest of nasty shit can come out from. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yep, plausible, but again, that's a social problem. It's super interesting, but not something a climate scientist can really speak to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) I would say that the ultimate impact on Mankind of Climate Change is itself outside the scope of Climatology by itself - by its own nature it would be an interdisciplinary effort involving at the very least Climatologists, Sociologists and Economists. That said, anybody can, as non-expert, mention some possibilities, though obviously not claiming any authoritativeness on the subject. (That's what I tried to do, hence why I began by saying it was just my "hazarding"). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago Yep, agree! That first paragraph is where I'm at now, trying to work with social scientists, business people, economists, who ever is keen. That interdisciplinary/transdisciplinary work is suuuuper interesting and fun and fucking hard. Also I'm just opinionated in general, you know? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Yep, plausible, but again, that's a social problem. It's super interesting, but not something a climate scientist can really speak to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) I would say that the ultimate impact on Mankind of Climate Change is itself outside the scope of Climatology by itself - by its own nature it would be an interdisciplinary effort involving at the very least Climatologists, Sociologists and Economists. That said, anybody can, as non-expert, mention some possibilities, though obviously not claiming any authoritativeness on the subject. (That's what I tried to do, hence why I began by saying it was just my "hazarding"). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago Yep, agree! That first paragraph is where I'm at now, trying to work with social scientists, business people, economists, who ever is keen. That interdisciplinary/transdisciplinary work is suuuuper interesting and fun and fucking hard. Also I'm just opinionated in general, you know? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) I would say that the ultimate impact on Mankind of Climate Change is itself outside the scope of Climatology by itself - by its own nature it would be an interdisciplinary effort involving at the very least Climatologists, Sociologists and Economists. That said, anybody can, as non-expert, mention some possibilities, though obviously not claiming any authoritativeness on the subject. (That's what I tried to do, hence why I began by saying it was just my "hazarding"). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago Yep, agree! That first paragraph is where I'm at now, trying to work with social scientists, business people, economists, who ever is keen. That interdisciplinary/transdisciplinary work is suuuuper interesting and fun and fucking hard. Also I'm just opinionated in general, you know? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago Yep, agree! That first paragraph is where I'm at now, trying to work with social scientists, business people, economists, who ever is keen. That interdisciplinary/transdisciplinary work is suuuuper interesting and fun and fucking hard. Also I'm just opinionated in general, you know? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent