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They eliminated cashiers and keep the profits. NY Democrats are fighting back. (thelemmy.club)
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[+] -8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

How many bombs has China dropped in the last 50 years? There's a reason so many people prefer China over America.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    I never said America was free of problems.

    That's the issue with people like you; you see zero nuance and you refuse to participate in discussions in good faith. Any criticism of any (pseudo-)socialist group must be met with Whataboutism or other bad faith arguments.

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  • [+] -9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Answer the question or fuck off, lol.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I'm happy to concede it's zero without looking it up; it makes no difference to either of our positions here.

    It's just a Red Herring for you to mount a soapbox to tell me and anyone who hasn't blocked you yet how China Did Nothing Wrong and America Did Nothing Good.

    That's why people evidently keep calling you a tankie, and that's how you and I differ so I never get called a tankie.

    TL;DR: Not All Socialists Are Tankies, but All Tankies Think All Socialists Are Tankies.

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  • [+] -10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Great, you passed the first test, lol.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    lol tf u talkin about lol begone

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  • [+] -7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Do you think you have some kind of power over this comment section? Begone? Eat my ass, lmao. American exceptionalism is so embarrassing lmao.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    I'm just telling you to fuck off in a more polite way, Mr. Nonconfrontational.

    You are just inventing straw men to attack at this point, after ignoring just about everything I said (save for the parts that helped you pivot to your propaganda pitch).

    You've done a +1 in the bucket of "Should I just block lemmy.ml?" Like 90% of the socialists I talk to from there end up being tankies and it's exhausting, not to mention erodes my faith in socialism. As I said, nothing you've said here has been in good faith.

    Why do you argue in bad faith? I have no idea. Maybe you're secretly anti-socialist and want to make socialists look dumb.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    soo, just to chime in, i get your whole point, and i agree with you. i'm just gonna propose another explanation why the other user behaves like a tankie:

    • the collapse of the sovjet union scarred many people psychologically. in its core, the sovjet union was a noble project with a bad execution, and it's like, if you're working for something, and can't accept that it fails. it's like the love of your life leaves you or sth, some people never get over it. some of these people then think that it was because of america's constant military threats etc that made the sovjet union fail. anyways, these people then end up thinking "well, if we had more military power, then we'd have been successful". and that drives them to become tankies.

    meanwhile, the sovjet union failed for complex geopolitical reasons that had basically nothing to do with military power. so the tankies are wrong, but they're wrong because they're deeply hurt themselves, not because they're inherently evil people.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Oh I don't think they're evil. I stated very clearly that I have no idea what's going on in their head.

    All I know is the effect they have on others, which is negative on average, and as a result - harmful to the spread of goodness in humanity.

    It's like the kid down the street who was beat up by some black kids and is forever racist because of it. I can intellectualize that he's deeply hurt by his experience, and I can try to talk him out of being racist, but I'm still going to dislike him and try to block him from affecting others with his poison.

    Again I'll remind that "Nonconfrontational" person I blocked you, so there's no point in replying to me. Following me around the thread downvoting everything I say kinda highlights the issue with people like you.

    Before you assert that I must not have blocked you or I wouldn't know it was you:

    1. I saw the 1 more reply and Lemmy wouldn't let me read it, which I assumed means it's from someone I blocked.

    2. I want to say you're the third or so person I've ever blocked on Lemmy.

    3. I double-checked by logging out, and confirmed it was you.

    My advice would be to touch some grass.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    That sucks, or is good. I'm not reading your drivel. Can't wait for your country to collapse, either way.

    Death to America.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    so many people prefer China over America.

    (citation needed)

    also, yeah, bombs are one thing, and i see your argument there.

    however, what moves people is largely the economic situation. people get dissatisfied with the US today because incomes are declining for the masses.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I sure as heck don't prefer China. America and China are both awful.

    I think you've been drinking too much Chinese gutter oil.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I think you've been mainlining American propaganda for your entire life. How many illegal wars has America started in the last 50 years? What about China?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Hardly. I'm not American nor do I live in America. I will happily agree with you that America sucks, and yes I am fully aware they have illegally or unethically interfered with other countries in many ways, including starting wars, for a long time.

    However, China is not some wonderful utopia you seem to be trying to paint it as. There are many problems with China too, obviously not exactly the same problems as America, but they exist, and to claim otherwise just makes you look like a CCCP shill.

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