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[-] 712@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 1 day ago

I think it’s important to note that these models are open-WEIGHT and not open-SOURCE. Open-source would mean we could explore the training data itself. Open-weight models are great, but please let’s not call them open-source.

[-] eicker@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Perfect shouldn’t become the enemy of better. Open Weight AI isn’t Open Source AI, but it’s a huge improvement over Closed AI where you get neither the weights nor the training pipeline.

[-] Meron35@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Nemotron Ultra is a open source and already gives DeepSeek R1 performance (admittedly not that good anymore). NVIDIA has open sourced the entire training process, including raw datasets and synthetic data generation. The raw data is mostly curated web crawl data.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it's like an open-source distro that won't work without an accompanying opaque binary blob.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 21 hours ago
[-] motruck@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago

It is more a question of what hardware is like that and if you look up firmware blobs for Linux you'll find a lot, starting with graphic cards.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 18 hours ago

That's the hardware not the distro

[-] motruck@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

Yeah and the hardware is what requires blobs regardless of the distro.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

The EU's AI Act calls them open source, so that ship has sailed.

[-] 712@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 19 hours ago

Just because a law mislabels something doesn’t mean we need/should follow that.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 5 points 17 hours ago

"See, you can see the code in binary, it is open source" :D

[-] vane@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

According to EU law carrot is fruit.

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