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[-] Ashtear@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

Interesting moment this week where I struggled with a grammar exercise and then realized upon review it wasn't the grammar, it was the vocab I was getting wrong.

It's starting to dawn on me, between this and feeling like I'm getting somewhere close to particle mastery, that I don't have much all that much farther to go on grammar learning. Stopped seeing new particle forms and verb conjugations a long time ago, there's far more grammar concepts behind me than there are ahead (assuming I don't do something wild like dive into Chinese literature study or old books). Maybe it's typical for reaching the end of the intermediate journey? Everything becomes vocab, vocab, vocab.

I might already be at the point where I need to start trusting my grammar forms over my vocab knowledge when a sentence doesn't make sense. I've been an Anki warrior for so long that it's a weird switch to flip in my head.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

From what I've seen in German C1 and C2 topics, the grammar and vocabulary merge at the highest levels.

In English for example, the word 'have' has an incredible number of structures. C1 and C2 really goes into very nuanced usage and no longer surface level.

In German, natural sounding sentences seemingly break B1 or B2 level rules in these special vocabulary forms (ie relearning that haben has a new grammar), and then learning these special grammars.

Or in other words: Natives don't follow the rules as written at B1 or B2. Learning the special exceptions to all kinds of words is C1+ level. So it's both vocabulary (knowing that words have new meanings), but ALSO grammar because it is complex enough to change the sentence structure.

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