▲ 655 ▼ Google has a VPN service now (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by paraphrand@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 240 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Melco@lemmy.world 59 points 3 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 15 points 3 years ago (1 child) A VPN doesn't really protect you from Google though. They get their data through trackers, which doesn't get blocked by a VPN. Obviously I'd still not use a Google VPN, because who knows what they'd do with that data permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] randomperson@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) No one knows what any VPN provider would do with that data so that's not google exclusive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Selfhost your VPN! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) All the traffic is now attributed to you, like it was before your self hosted VPN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Schmuppes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But that extra layer, man! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago To really hammer in the attribution? Haha permalink fedilink source parent [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That's a fact. But, in the first place, VPNs weren't invented for privacy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) It also depens on what informations the host has about you. Bare minimum is the IP, but it isn't really an identification permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago* If you're hosting a VPN in your house, all traffic is going to/from your device and your home encrypted, and your home and the isp unencrypted. Since it's in your home, everything you do on the VPN tunnel can be seen on the other side by your isp. E: autocorrect corrections permalink fedilink source parent [–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Idk... maybe not great for privacy but I just test it (I have been a subscriber for a while and didn't know there was a VPN) and it bypasses my country blocks of certain piracy pages so so far it's kind of usefull. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] _TK@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just be careful with that. If Google is logging your sessions, then your country's government can request that data. The idea that Google wouldn't keep logs is laughable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* Sure, I don't care in my case tough. It's not illegal to access them even tough they are blocked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 15 points 3 years ago (1 child) A VPN doesn't really protect you from Google though. They get their data through trackers, which doesn't get blocked by a VPN. Obviously I'd still not use a Google VPN, because who knows what they'd do with that data permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] randomperson@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) No one knows what any VPN provider would do with that data so that's not google exclusive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Selfhost your VPN! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) All the traffic is now attributed to you, like it was before your self hosted VPN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Schmuppes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But that extra layer, man! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago To really hammer in the attribution? Haha permalink fedilink source parent [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That's a fact. But, in the first place, VPNs weren't invented for privacy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) It also depens on what informations the host has about you. Bare minimum is the IP, but it isn't really an identification permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago* If you're hosting a VPN in your house, all traffic is going to/from your device and your home encrypted, and your home and the isp unencrypted. Since it's in your home, everything you do on the VPN tunnel can be seen on the other side by your isp. E: autocorrect corrections permalink fedilink source parent
[–] randomperson@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) No one knows what any VPN provider would do with that data so that's not google exclusive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Selfhost your VPN! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) All the traffic is now attributed to you, like it was before your self hosted VPN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Schmuppes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But that extra layer, man! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago To really hammer in the attribution? Haha permalink fedilink source parent [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That's a fact. But, in the first place, VPNs weren't invented for privacy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) It also depens on what informations the host has about you. Bare minimum is the IP, but it isn't really an identification permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago* If you're hosting a VPN in your house, all traffic is going to/from your device and your home encrypted, and your home and the isp unencrypted. Since it's in your home, everything you do on the VPN tunnel can be seen on the other side by your isp. E: autocorrect corrections permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Selfhost your VPN! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) All the traffic is now attributed to you, like it was before your self hosted VPN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Schmuppes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But that extra layer, man! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago To really hammer in the attribution? Haha permalink fedilink source parent [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That's a fact. But, in the first place, VPNs weren't invented for privacy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) It also depens on what informations the host has about you. Bare minimum is the IP, but it isn't really an identification permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago* If you're hosting a VPN in your house, all traffic is going to/from your device and your home encrypted, and your home and the isp unencrypted. Since it's in your home, everything you do on the VPN tunnel can be seen on the other side by your isp. E: autocorrect corrections permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) All the traffic is now attributed to you, like it was before your self hosted VPN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Schmuppes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But that extra layer, man! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago To really hammer in the attribution? Haha permalink fedilink source parent [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That's a fact. But, in the first place, VPNs weren't invented for privacy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) It also depens on what informations the host has about you. Bare minimum is the IP, but it isn't really an identification permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago* If you're hosting a VPN in your house, all traffic is going to/from your device and your home encrypted, and your home and the isp unencrypted. Since it's in your home, everything you do on the VPN tunnel can be seen on the other side by your isp. E: autocorrect corrections permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Schmuppes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) But that extra layer, man! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago To really hammer in the attribution? Haha permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago To really hammer in the attribution? Haha permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That's a fact. But, in the first place, VPNs weren't invented for privacy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) It also depens on what informations the host has about you. Bare minimum is the IP, but it isn't really an identification permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago* If you're hosting a VPN in your house, all traffic is going to/from your device and your home encrypted, and your home and the isp unencrypted. Since it's in your home, everything you do on the VPN tunnel can be seen on the other side by your isp. E: autocorrect corrections permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lunicoDee@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) It also depens on what informations the host has about you. Bare minimum is the IP, but it isn't really an identification permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago* If you're hosting a VPN in your house, all traffic is going to/from your device and your home encrypted, and your home and the isp unencrypted. Since it's in your home, everything you do on the VPN tunnel can be seen on the other side by your isp. E: autocorrect corrections permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago* If you're hosting a VPN in your house, all traffic is going to/from your device and your home encrypted, and your home and the isp unencrypted. Since it's in your home, everything you do on the VPN tunnel can be seen on the other side by your isp. E: autocorrect corrections permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Idk... maybe not great for privacy but I just test it (I have been a subscriber for a while and didn't know there was a VPN) and it bypasses my country blocks of certain piracy pages so so far it's kind of usefull. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] _TK@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just be careful with that. If Google is logging your sessions, then your country's government can request that data. The idea that Google wouldn't keep logs is laughable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* Sure, I don't care in my case tough. It's not illegal to access them even tough they are blocked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _TK@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just be careful with that. If Google is logging your sessions, then your country's government can request that data. The idea that Google wouldn't keep logs is laughable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* Sure, I don't care in my case tough. It's not illegal to access them even tough they are blocked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* Sure, I don't care in my case tough. It's not illegal to access them even tough they are blocked. permalink fedilink source parent
