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Flock Blames Bad Data While Blowing Past Every Guardrail— Two journalists were stopped over a partial plate in an NCIC hotlist. Flock calls it a feature; the NCIC operating manual calls it a violation (footnote4a.org)
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cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1276130/flock-blames-bad-data-while-blowing-past-every-guardrail-two-journalists-were-stopped-ov

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[–] 8 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Are there any implementations of camera based traffic safety networks that are actually kind of good, in terms of privacy, responsible data handling, and effectiveness?

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    No and none of us should have to live with cameras constantly pointed at us.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I live in a place with a lot of traffic violence, and there's negligible enforcement. I'm looking for a practical way to keep drivers accountable and reduce the violence.

    I think cameras on the intersections have to be part of that strategy. I'm inclined to believe a responsible implementation is possible, and I'd like to see more discussion of what that could look like.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    What about a dashcam?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    If I'm crossing the street and get mowed down in a hit and run, the car's dash cam footage probably won't be found.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Radar traps. They only snap a picture if someone is going above the speed limit, in a wrong lane (e.g. bus lane) or over a red light.

    Any arguments against them are usually analogous to sugar companies opposing a sugar tax because it would lead to poor grammy being unable to afford to sweeten her morning coffee anymore.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    yeah I still can't believe these got banned in Ontario. so much more effective and safe in school zones than speed bumps or artificial lane narrowing

    although fines should have been raised, like all vehicle fines, to a % of income/wealth

    and I will admit that I don't know how you ensure that they don't become like Flock

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Wait, how are they better than speed bumps?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    speed bumps are distracting and pull driver's attention from their surroundings, result in people accelerating loudly from bump to bump, create inconsistent traffic from people constantly accelerating and decelerating, are annoying on bikes when implemented poorly, slow down emergency vehicles, are annoying for everyone when somebody is pulling a trailer, are annoying for drivers who aren't even speeding, create difficulty plowing...

    a camera is just there and fines the owner of the vehicle

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