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Linus Torvalds to critics of AI coding in Linux: "Fork it. Or just walk away." (arstechnica.com)
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[–] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hard disagree.

This is like saying anyone who has watched a Disney movie now owes Disney a check any time they illustrate anything, even entirely unrelated, because they've learned from their commercial products in the past. If they don't pay Disney, then their creations are based on theft.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Fundamentally that's a purely ethical decision about whether a machine doing something should be treated with the same understanding the same as a human would. But we don't consider remembering something with a neurochemical storage the samd as taking a picture of something even if they're basically the same.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That's because taking a picture is an idetic copy. Machine learning is NOT copying, it's learning - hence the name.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    This is a misunderstanding based on confusion between technical and colloquial terminology.

    A machine learning model "learns" information in the same way that a curve fitting algorithm "learns" the shape of a data set.

    This is not the same as the colloquial meaning of human learning. It is a mathematical process.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That's splitting hairs on definitions, with no change in meaning. It's still not copying the data, and is far closer to a person learning than to a picture taken by a camera.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    It is actually not like a person learning at all. The only way you could believe this is if you have no grasp of the mathematics that are the basis of the multi-dimensional statistical analysis which is neural network training, and haven't bothered to do any reading on it.

    There's a reason I referenced curve fitting.

    Here is a better explanation than I could give, by someone who knows better than me:

    Large Language Models explained briefly by 3Blue1Brown

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    It actually is, but you want it to be literally the same. Given the options of what it can be compared to, learning is the most appropriate, which is exactly why it's named Machine Learning. The only reason you could believe otherwise is if you have no concept of language, and believe that it must be literally identical to a person learning in order to use the same verbiage.

    It does not; which is the reason why it's called learning. It's the closest, and most accurate approximation, regardless of the mathematical operations on which it's based.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Digital reproduction is digital reproduction no matter how many extra steps are added to the reproduction process. It's just an algorithm that sorts through a collection of stored data to find specific pieces of data which best fit the keywords supplied by the user, then regurgitates the results that are the best match based on correlation.

    In spite of common meaning overlap and popular metaphors, the human brain is not a computer. Ask any neurologist.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago

    Thank you for the opinion. If there's a trial, and if you're called as an expert witness, I'm sure they'll consider your opinion, and have a fun debate on whether a human brain being similar to a computer is relevant in any way.

    In the meantime, the technology exists, is useful and the results are no more theft than creating piñatas from newspaper clippings is theft from the newspaper.

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