▲ 394 ▼ France orders internet providers to block access to Polymarket prediction site (www.france24.com) submitted 2 months ago by beep@piefed.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 39 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1274527/france-orders-internet-providers-to-block-access-to-polymarket-prediction-site Main Source.
[–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (7 children) I mean, it is both? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (6 children) By that logic, all gambling is just prediction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago risks were calculated @ but I am bad at math permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) how did you come to this conclusion? betting on scenarios that are purely random are just gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 2 points 2 months ago (3 children) Scenarios in gambling are rarely "purely random". I.e. the likelyhood of winning in poker depends on what you already got dealt and what other cards got dealt and so on. What does "purely random" even mean? Like a lottery with equal chance of winning for all participants? Yea that's gambling but just one kind of gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Womble@piefed.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Most forms of casino gambling except card games are purely random: dice, roulette, slot machines. I agree with you that there being an element of skill or knowledge doesnt stop it being gambling however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago Only gambling on thermal noise is the real deal /½s permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago But that is what the whole discussion is about. Many scenarios aren't just gambling because they have a degree of predictability to it: poker, stock market, betting on the day when the US starts WW3. Probably only quantum processes are truly random, but for this argument, processes are practically random if the governing variables are not human-knowable. A dice throw, roulette, lottery numbers drawn from a bowl. They are deep down deterministic, but not predictable to any degree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (6 children) By that logic, all gambling is just prediction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago risks were calculated @ but I am bad at math permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) how did you come to this conclusion? betting on scenarios that are purely random are just gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 2 points 2 months ago (3 children) Scenarios in gambling are rarely "purely random". I.e. the likelyhood of winning in poker depends on what you already got dealt and what other cards got dealt and so on. What does "purely random" even mean? Like a lottery with equal chance of winning for all participants? Yea that's gambling but just one kind of gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Womble@piefed.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Most forms of casino gambling except card games are purely random: dice, roulette, slot machines. I agree with you that there being an element of skill or knowledge doesnt stop it being gambling however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago Only gambling on thermal noise is the real deal /½s permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago But that is what the whole discussion is about. Many scenarios aren't just gambling because they have a degree of predictability to it: poker, stock market, betting on the day when the US starts WW3. Probably only quantum processes are truly random, but for this argument, processes are practically random if the governing variables are not human-knowable. A dice throw, roulette, lottery numbers drawn from a bowl. They are deep down deterministic, but not predictable to any degree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago risks were calculated @ but I am bad at math permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) how did you come to this conclusion? betting on scenarios that are purely random are just gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 2 points 2 months ago (3 children) Scenarios in gambling are rarely "purely random". I.e. the likelyhood of winning in poker depends on what you already got dealt and what other cards got dealt and so on. What does "purely random" even mean? Like a lottery with equal chance of winning for all participants? Yea that's gambling but just one kind of gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Womble@piefed.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Most forms of casino gambling except card games are purely random: dice, roulette, slot machines. I agree with you that there being an element of skill or knowledge doesnt stop it being gambling however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago Only gambling on thermal noise is the real deal /½s permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago But that is what the whole discussion is about. Many scenarios aren't just gambling because they have a degree of predictability to it: poker, stock market, betting on the day when the US starts WW3. Probably only quantum processes are truly random, but for this argument, processes are practically random if the governing variables are not human-knowable. A dice throw, roulette, lottery numbers drawn from a bowl. They are deep down deterministic, but not predictable to any degree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 2 points 2 months ago (3 children) Scenarios in gambling are rarely "purely random". I.e. the likelyhood of winning in poker depends on what you already got dealt and what other cards got dealt and so on. What does "purely random" even mean? Like a lottery with equal chance of winning for all participants? Yea that's gambling but just one kind of gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Womble@piefed.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Most forms of casino gambling except card games are purely random: dice, roulette, slot machines. I agree with you that there being an element of skill or knowledge doesnt stop it being gambling however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago Only gambling on thermal noise is the real deal /½s permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago But that is what the whole discussion is about. Many scenarios aren't just gambling because they have a degree of predictability to it: poker, stock market, betting on the day when the US starts WW3. Probably only quantum processes are truly random, but for this argument, processes are practically random if the governing variables are not human-knowable. A dice throw, roulette, lottery numbers drawn from a bowl. They are deep down deterministic, but not predictable to any degree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Womble@piefed.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Most forms of casino gambling except card games are purely random: dice, roulette, slot machines. I agree with you that there being an element of skill or knowledge doesnt stop it being gambling however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago Only gambling on thermal noise is the real deal /½s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 point 2 months ago Only gambling on thermal noise is the real deal /½s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago But that is what the whole discussion is about. Many scenarios aren't just gambling because they have a degree of predictability to it: poker, stock market, betting on the day when the US starts WW3. Probably only quantum processes are truly random, but for this argument, processes are practically random if the governing variables are not human-knowable. A dice throw, roulette, lottery numbers drawn from a bowl. They are deep down deterministic, but not predictable to any degree. permalink fedilink source parent