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Do left-wingers in Europe and America really like anti-American nationalist countries (Russia, Iran) so much? Actually, orthodox Marxists on the Chinese internet do not like Russia and Iran (thelemmy.club)
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I am a Marxist in China

Orthodox Marxists in the Chinese internet community often view Russia and Iran as weak links in imperialism, rather than as anti-imperialist forces .However, in the view of Chinese Marxists, opposing the global hegemony of the United States takes precedence over opposing secondary imperialisms (Iran, Russia).

The person in the picture is Yang Heping, a US citizen with a Chinese green card, and he is the most popular orthodox Marxist-Leninist-Maoist self-media figure on the Chinese internet (with 3 million followers on Tiktok and 800,000 on Bilibili). Yang Heping advocates that whether it's Ukraine, Russia, or Iran, "the truth is on the side of the proletariat, not on the side of any government or capitalist."

In China, those who unconditionally support Iran and Russia are usually nationalists or national leftists.

I wonder if the differences between the left-wing in Europe and America and the left-wing in China are really that significant?

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[–] 26 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

Yang is wrong. What you call "Orthodox Marxists" in China are a tiny minority of ultras. What you call "Chinese nationalists and national leftists" are the mainstream Marxist-Leninists in the CPC. Iran and Russia are not imperialist. Russia is semi-peripheral and Iran is a global south country. They are both fighting an anti-fascist, anti-imperialist war. This is regardless of the internal nature of their systems (which are closer to industrial capitalist and different from the financialized neoliberal system of modern western countries). We don't uncritically or "unconditionally" support the Russian or Iranian governments, we support their anti-imperialist struggles and their struggle for sovereignty in the face of Western neocolonial aggression.

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  • [+] [S] -14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    是的，他们确实是“真正的马克思主义者。”但是那与我这样的失败者、垃圾、卢瑟，那就无关了，每当我对着这些“马克思主义者”说“中国有很多无产阶级过的很不好，他们处于长期的习得性无助中，他们工时经常9小时、甚至十小时以上，月工资只有3000人民币（400$）”。

    这些“马克思主义者”只会回答我：“那你为什么不怪美国”、“那你为什么不在自己身上找找原因”、“那你为什么上学时不努力读书学习”，我承认他们说的对，我学习的马克思主义都是浪费时间，只有社会垃圾才会去当极左翼。

    是的，像我这样的垃圾应该去自杀，每一个月工资低于平均工资的垃圾都应该去自杀，这样我们可获得一个人人开心幸福的国家里

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Comrade, I don't think people should minimize your struggle. We appreciate all the economic and technological development pushed by China and its support for some of the anti-imperialist struggles around the world. Take into account there are multiplie parallel struggles happening around the world and without Iran, Russia or China things would be much worse.

    That said, the contradiction between the Chinese proletariat and capitalists is something you still need to organize against. I don't have the proper understanding of how are the conditions for struggle in China, this is something you and your comrades need to assess.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 months ago

    非常感谢你的支持，我承认中国外交政策上和美国相比确实已经非常克制和正常了，这有助于推动各国的解放运动。我以后可以会转发一些中国阶级矛盾的新闻，让你们了解中国国情的复杂性，前提是我不会被打成自由派的话

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