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Linus Torvalds tells AI haters to fork off: Linux supremo says contributors opposed to AI use can 'just walk away' (lore.kernel.org)
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cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1264750/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off-linux-supremo-says-contributors-opposed-to-ai

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[–] 2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

The energy consumption can be measured, very approximately, by the cost of the tokens. If you design agentic tools to make use of fewer, cheaper tokens then you're likely also minimizing the energy usage.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    How vague of a guess is that when people rely on those closed systems? We all know Corporate AI is hiding the actual costs with creative accounting while they enjoy abusing the environment...

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    Comparisons can be made using open AI models. I run some locally on my own hardware, I know exactly how much energy they use.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    I wasn't talking about the closed source models you use. I was talking about the cloud ones you were just discussing.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    And I said comparisons can be made.

    If those cloud models are getting comparable results but using way more electricity, why would companies be running them? They like making profit, don't they? They're not some kind of Captain Planet villains chortling at being maximally wasteful.

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