▲ 1254 ▼ Elon Musk’s Colossus 2 data center installed 59 natural gas turbines without permission, report claims — thousands of tons of pollutants reportedly impact black communities in Mississippi already suff (www.tomshardware.com) submitted 1 month ago by fubarx@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 156 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 month ago (5 children) I work in emissions monitoring and this is super illegal. permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago Its only illegal if someone prosecutes them. That isn't going to happen before the purge. permalink fedilink source parent [–] binux@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago (1 child) Since when has illegality stopped parasites rich people? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago Yup, the “penalty costs” are just costs of doing business. And the richer they get, the less impactful the penalty is so it gets easier to write off. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago Specifically which part is illegal? Is it lack of planning permission? Is it an environmental law? Etc. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AA5B@lemmy.world -6 points 1 month ago* (4 children) While I hate being cold to peoples suffering, didn’t most of them vote for the face eating leopard party. They asked for their corporate overlords personal profit to be protected from their lungs, their environment, any consideration. They asked for billionaires to be above the law. They are clearly being wronged here, there should be heavy fines, shutdowns and even jail time but my empathy is in short supply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) Blacks typically vote mostly for Democrats while whites typically vote for Republicans. So black neighborhoods are commonly not getting representation. Mississippi is about as Jim Crow as it can possibly be, so it doesn't surprise me if white supremacist elected officials are pushed into office via gerrymandering, voter suppression and election tampering. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago Yeah it was like 86% Harris from African Americans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] funksoulkitchen@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago Just because they voted for a leopard to eat their face, doesn't mean they deserve to have their face eaten permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago About 40% of Mississippi voters voted for Kamala Harris. Additionally, about 38% of the state's residents are black. permalink fedilink source parent [+] nevyn@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) People are downvoting because they can't reconcile one side being better than the other with both sides being bad. Is sacrificing citizens for AI companies a partisan issue? Does the mainstream democratic party oppose the unsustainable construction of data centers and what happens to people near those data centers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nevyn@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Without voting reform there can only be two parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nevyn@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago I mean the voting system needs to be reformed. There is no reform party, and cannot be because the voting system allows for only two parties. If Tucker Carlson or whoever manages to create a different far right party that steals more than 5% but less than 95% of the vote from the current far right party, that's bad for far right voters because the less right party will always come out ahead in major elections. permalink fedilink source parent [+] kunaltyagi@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) Not really. If he has permissions for a temporary install, it is above board. He just needs to get a permanent permit before moving to a long term generator instead of temporary fixes. Should the permissions have been blocked? Now that's a diff question permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chewypoops@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago So you're just going to parrot Elon Musk's public statement about why he doesn't need permission? Get outta here! He has more than 2x as many turbines than is allowed for a temporary install. The article makes it abundantly clear that these things are illegal. Musk doesn't have permission to do this, no matter what excuse he gives. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago Its only illegal if someone prosecutes them. That isn't going to happen before the purge. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago (1 child) Since when has illegality stopped parasites rich people? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago Yup, the “penalty costs” are just costs of doing business. And the richer they get, the less impactful the penalty is so it gets easier to write off. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago Yup, the “penalty costs” are just costs of doing business. And the richer they get, the less impactful the penalty is so it gets easier to write off. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago Specifically which part is illegal? Is it lack of planning permission? Is it an environmental law? Etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AA5B@lemmy.world -6 points 1 month ago* (4 children) While I hate being cold to peoples suffering, didn’t most of them vote for the face eating leopard party. They asked for their corporate overlords personal profit to be protected from their lungs, their environment, any consideration. They asked for billionaires to be above the law. They are clearly being wronged here, there should be heavy fines, shutdowns and even jail time but my empathy is in short supply permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) Blacks typically vote mostly for Democrats while whites typically vote for Republicans. So black neighborhoods are commonly not getting representation. Mississippi is about as Jim Crow as it can possibly be, so it doesn't surprise me if white supremacist elected officials are pushed into office via gerrymandering, voter suppression and election tampering. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago Yeah it was like 86% Harris from African Americans. permalink fedilink source parent [–] funksoulkitchen@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago Just because they voted for a leopard to eat their face, doesn't mean they deserve to have their face eaten permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago About 40% of Mississippi voters voted for Kamala Harris. Additionally, about 38% of the state's residents are black. permalink fedilink source parent [+] nevyn@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) People are downvoting because they can't reconcile one side being better than the other with both sides being bad. Is sacrificing citizens for AI companies a partisan issue? Does the mainstream democratic party oppose the unsustainable construction of data centers and what happens to people near those data centers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nevyn@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Without voting reform there can only be two parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nevyn@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago I mean the voting system needs to be reformed. There is no reform party, and cannot be because the voting system allows for only two parties. If Tucker Carlson or whoever manages to create a different far right party that steals more than 5% but less than 95% of the vote from the current far right party, that's bad for far right voters because the less right party will always come out ahead in major elections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 child) Blacks typically vote mostly for Democrats while whites typically vote for Republicans. So black neighborhoods are commonly not getting representation. Mississippi is about as Jim Crow as it can possibly be, so it doesn't surprise me if white supremacist elected officials are pushed into office via gerrymandering, voter suppression and election tampering. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago Yeah it was like 86% Harris from African Americans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago Yeah it was like 86% Harris from African Americans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] funksoulkitchen@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago Just because they voted for a leopard to eat their face, doesn't mean they deserve to have their face eaten permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago About 40% of Mississippi voters voted for Kamala Harris. Additionally, about 38% of the state's residents are black. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] nevyn@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) People are downvoting because they can't reconcile one side being better than the other with both sides being bad. Is sacrificing citizens for AI companies a partisan issue? Does the mainstream democratic party oppose the unsustainable construction of data centers and what happens to people near those data centers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nevyn@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Without voting reform there can only be two parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nevyn@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago I mean the voting system needs to be reformed. There is no reform party, and cannot be because the voting system allows for only two parties. If Tucker Carlson or whoever manages to create a different far right party that steals more than 5% but less than 95% of the vote from the current far right party, that's bad for far right voters because the less right party will always come out ahead in major elections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) People are downvoting because they can't reconcile one side being better than the other with both sides being bad. Is sacrificing citizens for AI companies a partisan issue? Does the mainstream democratic party oppose the unsustainable construction of data centers and what happens to people near those data centers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nevyn@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Without voting reform there can only be two parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nevyn@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago I mean the voting system needs to be reformed. There is no reform party, and cannot be because the voting system allows for only two parties. If Tucker Carlson or whoever manages to create a different far right party that steals more than 5% but less than 95% of the vote from the current far right party, that's bad for far right voters because the less right party will always come out ahead in major elections. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] nevyn@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Without voting reform there can only be two parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nevyn@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago I mean the voting system needs to be reformed. There is no reform party, and cannot be because the voting system allows for only two parties. If Tucker Carlson or whoever manages to create a different far right party that steals more than 5% but less than 95% of the vote from the current far right party, that's bad for far right voters because the less right party will always come out ahead in major elections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Without voting reform there can only be two parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nevyn@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago I mean the voting system needs to be reformed. There is no reform party, and cannot be because the voting system allows for only two parties. If Tucker Carlson or whoever manages to create a different far right party that steals more than 5% but less than 95% of the vote from the current far right party, that's bad for far right voters because the less right party will always come out ahead in major elections. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] nevyn@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago I mean the voting system needs to be reformed. There is no reform party, and cannot be because the voting system allows for only two parties. If Tucker Carlson or whoever manages to create a different far right party that steals more than 5% but less than 95% of the vote from the current far right party, that's bad for far right voters because the less right party will always come out ahead in major elections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 month ago I mean the voting system needs to be reformed. There is no reform party, and cannot be because the voting system allows for only two parties. If Tucker Carlson or whoever manages to create a different far right party that steals more than 5% but less than 95% of the vote from the current far right party, that's bad for far right voters because the less right party will always come out ahead in major elections. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] kunaltyagi@programming.dev -7 points 1 month ago (1 child) Not really. If he has permissions for a temporary install, it is above board. He just needs to get a permanent permit before moving to a long term generator instead of temporary fixes. Should the permissions have been blocked? Now that's a diff question permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chewypoops@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago So you're just going to parrot Elon Musk's public statement about why he doesn't need permission? Get outta here! He has more than 2x as many turbines than is allowed for a temporary install. The article makes it abundantly clear that these things are illegal. Musk doesn't have permission to do this, no matter what excuse he gives. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chewypoops@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago So you're just going to parrot Elon Musk's public statement about why he doesn't need permission? Get outta here! He has more than 2x as many turbines than is allowed for a temporary install. The article makes it abundantly clear that these things are illegal. Musk doesn't have permission to do this, no matter what excuse he gives. permalink fedilink source parent