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[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 12 hours ago

Ok so some guy on the internet called Chairman Meow said that. I didn't say that.

Yes, and your response to that is what we have been discussing....

Yeah, the IAEA. It's not my job look up information for you, the site is here: https://www.iaea.org/

So it's a no then. They have ballistic missiles, but none with the range to deliver a nuclear warhead to Israel. The estimated timeline for them to have to develop an icbm is 2028. Also "IAEA reports indicate that Iran does not yet have a viable nuclear weapon design or a suitable explosive detonation system."

Much of the information is in PDF form, and very technical stuff. So shit tier "journalists" won't read it.

And only shit tier journalists are reporting on Iran.....?

What about the nuclear non-proliferation treaty? I think you'll find Iran is violating international law with it's actions.

It is mostly a farce, as non of the signatories actually pursued disarmament in good faith, and nations including Israel have been secretly been working on nuclear weapons programs for years. The US itself has increased spending on its nuclear arsenal by over 20% in recent years. Plus, the treaty allows nations to withdraw in case of extraordinary events.

When was the last time a country declared war? We stopped doing that kind of thing when it lead to two world wars and nuclear weapons came onto the scene.

And war doesn't exist unless it's officially declared? Wars still happen, and they are still given justifications by those who make to their own citizens and to their allies.

international norms and you call be a "fucking idiot".

Because you are being a pedantic idiot.

Israel is an ally of the US. Do I need to explain how alliances work too FFS?

Then why haven't we invaded North Korea every time their leader says something about blowing up the South? It's almost like it's an idiotic justification used to playcate people like yourself.

Congratulations, you finally got one right! Yes by all reports Iran was abiding by the JCPOA. Trump cancelled that then assassinated a general in his first term which made a war pretty much inevitable.

Seems to directly refute your earlier claims.......

Iran has developed the capability of building a nuclear weapon. They've consistently expressed a desire to be an existential threat to Israel. The use of a nuclear weapon would result in the deaths of millions.

Again, when has the official political stance of the Iranian government been to wipe Israel off the map? You don't think that might be counter intuitive to there actual grievances? They are going to save Palestine by washing it in nuclear fallout?

A Nuclear weapons primary use is as a deterrent, noone is going to risk the global political backlash of being the first to unleash the nuclear arsenal in an offensive manor, not to mention it would ensure nuclear retaliation. It would essentially be a murder suicide on a national scale.

The Iranian regime has also attacked all of it's neighbours, and has targeted civilians. Iran is also responsible for October 7 which led to a war that resulted in the deaths of over 73,000 Palestinians.

Israel has attacked all of its neighbors, are the people who actually murdered 73k Palestinians, and the people who are still engaged in a genocide.

Whatever grievances Iran has does not justify the evil acts their regime has brought onto the world. In an ideal world Bush would've never made the "axis of evil" speech, Trump wouldn't have cancelled the JCPOA and wouldn't have killed an Iranian general.

So Iran is responsible for their actions, but the US and Israel are not.....go figure.

these psychopaths can't be allowed to have a nuke.

Unfortunately we live in a world where the only real protection from the actual psychopaths with nuclear weapons is to develop nuclear capabilities yourself. They tried diplomacy, that didn't work, the fact that you are blaming the party that actually stuck to the treaty says more about your psychopathy than anything else.

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