Are there any comparisons of init systems that focus daily use metrics? Stuff like what writing scripts looks like and boot times and logging capabilities? (And any other use cases that are common)

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[–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, but things like human readable logs are almost all gone because of journalctl changes that went into the systemd ecosystem without anyone really running by folks who look at logs everyday.

It's not the functionality of systemd I don't like, it's the Poettering way of just making changes to stuff without bothering to learn how any of the rest of us professionally use things.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Yeap, you now get logs from all stages of the boot process, and you notice logs going bad or getting manipulated. It's a huge step forward for Linux, especially for people that look at logs every day. They can finally trust the logs to be correct and complete.

    And it is not even a change: I have never had real unix servers with plain text logs in 30 years working with them. Proper computers have always stored logs in databases or whatever. That's actually a legal requirement in many parts of the world for many kinds of servers.

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