I was never a chud (sorry) but my working theory on this now is that people won’t change their minds unless they suffer a sudden major decline in status. At that point, there’s a chance they can change.

For me, moving from labor aristocrat to worker (even if I’m still one who benefits from colonialism and imperialism and patriarchy) was radicalizing. I basically went from years of working a swanky respectable job that impressed people to…unemployment interspersed with jobs that are generally looked down upon. That sucked! I was still the same guy, but society was like: “fuck you, we don’t need you anymore.” And so I decided to say “fuck you” to the society that did this to me! What’s even worse though is that I wasn’t fired. I did this to myself because liberal me was bored with that swanky job and believed that I would be able to find another one. As it turns out, genuinely good jobs are extremely difficult to find!

This is why it seems generally pointless to argue with people. Libs and chuds think the way they do because the system benefits them.