▲ 664 ▼ Gamers push back: 71% say they’re not ready to let physical games die as PlayStation and Xbox move toward a digital-only future” (www.windowscentral.com) submitted 2 months ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world 197 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (10 children) People voting with their wallet will decide how this ends. permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 2 months ago They already have. Physical media sales are a small minority of game sales. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (8 children) They will like PC gamers swallow all the DRM and digital downloads as we see everytime there is complaints about Denovo or the latest game has been withdrawn on Steam gamers keep going back and buying more. It will end the same way on Playstation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children) I'm not aware of Steam ever having removed a purchased game from a library. If you have a reliable source that says otherwise please link it. Technically they could do that of course. But it would be bad for their business and have people do more business with gog.com. Steam gets chosen over gog.com for convenience. If purchased games disappear that will be even more inconvenient. edit: I mean "Steam ever having removed a purchased game from a library" in the sense of for no good reason. Following legal requirements or being dependent on external resources (e.g. game servers) outside the responsibility of Steam are different things and I wouldn't blame Steam for it. There's a reason for the trust people have in Steam. And there are plenty of reasons for not having trust in Sony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago It's certainly a ways away but Gaben won't live forever. I'm assuming there's a clear succession plan in place and hopefully that everyone lined up are on roughly the same wavelength but... well, there're no guarantees. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) external resources (e.g. game servers) outside the responsibility of Steam are different things and I wouldn't blame Steam for it. What if the publisher decides they no longer want it to be available? Is that a "good reason"? It's outside the responsibility and control of Steam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (3 children) Steam removes it from the store. It's still in my library and I can still download it anytime. That's been my experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago That's good to know. Thank you confirming what I was hoping for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Your experience is not reality. Steam has completely removed several games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago* My experience is not reality? lol what? Can you show my where this is not the case? I have several games in my library that are no longer for sale on the store because the publisher removed them, yet I can still download and install them. I am willing to say there probably is an exception to every rule, so go ahead, do you have a library item that no longer can be downloaded? permalink fedilink source parent [–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago In my book it is. It's still bad and a reason to strive for the ability to fully own games. But Steam's fault? Nah. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 2 months ago They already have. Physical media sales are a small minority of game sales. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (8 children) They will like PC gamers swallow all the DRM and digital downloads as we see everytime there is complaints about Denovo or the latest game has been withdrawn on Steam gamers keep going back and buying more. It will end the same way on Playstation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children) I'm not aware of Steam ever having removed a purchased game from a library. If you have a reliable source that says otherwise please link it. Technically they could do that of course. But it would be bad for their business and have people do more business with gog.com. Steam gets chosen over gog.com for convenience. If purchased games disappear that will be even more inconvenient. edit: I mean "Steam ever having removed a purchased game from a library" in the sense of for no good reason. Following legal requirements or being dependent on external resources (e.g. game servers) outside the responsibility of Steam are different things and I wouldn't blame Steam for it. There's a reason for the trust people have in Steam. And there are plenty of reasons for not having trust in Sony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago It's certainly a ways away but Gaben won't live forever. I'm assuming there's a clear succession plan in place and hopefully that everyone lined up are on roughly the same wavelength but... well, there're no guarantees. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) external resources (e.g. game servers) outside the responsibility of Steam are different things and I wouldn't blame Steam for it. What if the publisher decides they no longer want it to be available? Is that a "good reason"? It's outside the responsibility and control of Steam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (3 children) Steam removes it from the store. It's still in my library and I can still download it anytime. That's been my experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago That's good to know. Thank you confirming what I was hoping for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Your experience is not reality. Steam has completely removed several games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago* My experience is not reality? lol what? Can you show my where this is not the case? I have several games in my library that are no longer for sale on the store because the publisher removed them, yet I can still download and install them. I am willing to say there probably is an exception to every rule, so go ahead, do you have a library item that no longer can be downloaded? permalink fedilink source parent [–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago In my book it is. It's still bad and a reason to strive for the ability to fully own games. But Steam's fault? Nah. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children) I'm not aware of Steam ever having removed a purchased game from a library. If you have a reliable source that says otherwise please link it. Technically they could do that of course. But it would be bad for their business and have people do more business with gog.com. Steam gets chosen over gog.com for convenience. If purchased games disappear that will be even more inconvenient. edit: I mean "Steam ever having removed a purchased game from a library" in the sense of for no good reason. Following legal requirements or being dependent on external resources (e.g. game servers) outside the responsibility of Steam are different things and I wouldn't blame Steam for it. There's a reason for the trust people have in Steam. And there are plenty of reasons for not having trust in Sony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago It's certainly a ways away but Gaben won't live forever. I'm assuming there's a clear succession plan in place and hopefully that everyone lined up are on roughly the same wavelength but... well, there're no guarantees. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) external resources (e.g. game servers) outside the responsibility of Steam are different things and I wouldn't blame Steam for it. What if the publisher decides they no longer want it to be available? Is that a "good reason"? It's outside the responsibility and control of Steam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (3 children) Steam removes it from the store. It's still in my library and I can still download it anytime. That's been my experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago That's good to know. Thank you confirming what I was hoping for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Your experience is not reality. Steam has completely removed several games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago* My experience is not reality? lol what? Can you show my where this is not the case? I have several games in my library that are no longer for sale on the store because the publisher removed them, yet I can still download and install them. I am willing to say there probably is an exception to every rule, so go ahead, do you have a library item that no longer can be downloaded? permalink fedilink source parent [–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago In my book it is. It's still bad and a reason to strive for the ability to fully own games. But Steam's fault? Nah. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago It's certainly a ways away but Gaben won't live forever. I'm assuming there's a clear succession plan in place and hopefully that everyone lined up are on roughly the same wavelength but... well, there're no guarantees. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) external resources (e.g. game servers) outside the responsibility of Steam are different things and I wouldn't blame Steam for it. What if the publisher decides they no longer want it to be available? Is that a "good reason"? It's outside the responsibility and control of Steam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (3 children) Steam removes it from the store. It's still in my library and I can still download it anytime. That's been my experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago That's good to know. Thank you confirming what I was hoping for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Your experience is not reality. Steam has completely removed several games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago* My experience is not reality? lol what? Can you show my where this is not the case? I have several games in my library that are no longer for sale on the store because the publisher removed them, yet I can still download and install them. I am willing to say there probably is an exception to every rule, so go ahead, do you have a library item that no longer can be downloaded? permalink fedilink source parent [–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago In my book it is. It's still bad and a reason to strive for the ability to fully own games. But Steam's fault? Nah. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (3 children) Steam removes it from the store. It's still in my library and I can still download it anytime. That's been my experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago That's good to know. Thank you confirming what I was hoping for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Your experience is not reality. Steam has completely removed several games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago* My experience is not reality? lol what? Can you show my where this is not the case? I have several games in my library that are no longer for sale on the store because the publisher removed them, yet I can still download and install them. I am willing to say there probably is an exception to every rule, so go ahead, do you have a library item that no longer can be downloaded? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago That's good to know. Thank you confirming what I was hoping for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Your experience is not reality. Steam has completely removed several games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago* My experience is not reality? lol what? Can you show my where this is not the case? I have several games in my library that are no longer for sale on the store because the publisher removed them, yet I can still download and install them. I am willing to say there probably is an exception to every rule, so go ahead, do you have a library item that no longer can be downloaded? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago* My experience is not reality? lol what? Can you show my where this is not the case? I have several games in my library that are no longer for sale on the store because the publisher removed them, yet I can still download and install them. I am willing to say there probably is an exception to every rule, so go ahead, do you have a library item that no longer can be downloaded? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago In my book it is. It's still bad and a reason to strive for the ability to fully own games. But Steam's fault? Nah. permalink fedilink source parent