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[–] 7 points 3 months ago (8 children)

You're right. You can also learn a lot about the culture and society around you because of that questioning, even if you end up still following the rules.

On the other hand, what's there to gain from following the rules without question and forcing others to do the same? The only thing I can imagine right now that could be gained is the feeling that you are helping society "stay in the right track".

This means that there are about 3 options:

  1. Learn something new;
  2. Continue to follow the rules without question while trying to force others to not learn something new, and feel good about it.
  3. Do nothing and continue to follow the rules (you're not bothered enough to learn something new, but also don't want to be a pain in the ass);

Notice that when questioning the rules, you might come to the conclusion that there's no harm in following the rules, or that following the rules is what's the best for you or those around you. Questioning ≠ opposing. Question = checking validity and understanding why.

For the reasons Michael has outlined above, questioning the rules feels like the most productive approach.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (7 children)

    But you might improve something or expose malfeasance. You'll have to be killed. Sorry; just the rule.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    You’ll have to be killed. Sorry; just the rule.

    Hopefully the Agent Smiths of the world consider another way of being.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (5 children)

    Do you think that would be better?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Yes, much better, and not only that - I advocate for them (even when it's unpopular). I'm somebody who thinks even Peter Thiel can choose another way of being and I'd be happy to help them out if they ever decide to release their ambitions for world domination.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    yes

    Then either its illegal or you're wrong.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    Me? Suggest illegal action? Never. The matrix can be released without advocating for any harm, loss of freedom, or suggesting anything illegal. It just takes a willingness to reform our justice system and engage in rehabilitative or restorative justice, justice that is based on a foundation of consent.

    If Peter Thiel wants to surveil the entire world and create AI-based tools to enslave humanity, with his consent, we can answer his desire and make him a computer program that resembles the matrix/our world. Let him cook and enslave/kill billions in a virtual reality he is empowered to help create. We could even employ human actors who choose to participate in his recovery. When he's gotten it out of his system, he can be assisted in joining the society he sought to enslave under the guise of libertarian ideology.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah,simulated people wouldn't count. Creating them fully conscious for the sole purpose of optimizing their suffering is totally cool.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    I'd be accepting volunteers who like to be killed and limited by the AI systems he seeks to create. I'm sure out of the billions of humans there are some that could convincingly do the role and like it, in addition to doing it to Peter's satisfaction, without torturing machine consciousness. We don't want to create Cylons, thanks for your understanding.

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