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Quote of the day by Gabe Newell: "Piracy is not a pricing issue. It’s a service issue" — Sony just proved why digital storefronts are broken (www.windowscentral.com)
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[–] -1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

We are not discussing delisting. We're discussing games that were removed completely.

And it’s not Valve that chose to pull down those games

And it's not Sony that chose to pull down these movies.

Delisting and deleting are not the same thing.

That's exactly right.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    If you know there's a difference then why are you saying customers who bought those games no longer have access to the files? You should know that's not true if you know how delisting works on Steam.

    I don't know if it's Sony's choice or not but I know your statement about how it was Valve who chose to delist those games was incorrect.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    So you’re conflating delisted Steam games with items being permanently removed from libraries on purpose?

    I'm not conflating anything, you are. I was discussing games permanently removed. If Concord is still accessible then I stand corrected on that account. What about the other games I listed?

    I don’t know if it’s Sony’s choice or not

    Sony does not control the licenses for these media. They have no choice to make.

    I know your statement about how it was Valve who chose to delist those games was incorrect.

    It would be, had I made that statement.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    Pointing out that Sony (apparently) making Concord unable to be downloaded again is not at all like how Valve lets delisted games usually still be downloaded by people who owned those games is the opposite of conflation. Conflation is when you say Valve is just like Sony when it comes to delisted games in that they both don't let you download the game files again even though that's false for one of those companies.

    Do you not realize what you said with these lines?

    Everyone lost access to their files when Valve allowed Sony to pull Concord from Steam.

    Or when Valve pulled Total War Arena, The Day Before, The Culling 2, etc.

    Did you think you named the actual publishers for those games this whole time and didn't realize you put it all at the feet of Valve? Did you not remember that you said Valve has the power to allow a publisher to delist their games or not?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Conflation is when you say Valve is just like Sony when it comes to delisted games

    If you're going to repeatedly attribute statements to me that I've never made in bad faith then I see no reason to continue this conversation.

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