▲ 416 ▼ Google gets its way, bakes a user-tracking ad platform directly into Chrome (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to c/technology@lemmy.ml 91 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (1 child) but this is Google, and they control Chrome, and this probably still won't make people switch to Firefox Yeah. People just simply will not do things that are in their best interest. This is literally the biggest issue that was had with IE. Inertia. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Spacemanspliff@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) All of my web interaction at this point happens through my Android phone, Google has me by the balls anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] anguo@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago (4 children) There is Firefox for Android. You're still on Android, but you can have some control left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] qupada@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Unfortunately Firefox doesn't have a replacement for the "Android System WebView" component, so any app that embeds a browser component (and oh boy is that a lot of them) will still be using Chrome. There's a relevant ticket here: https://github.com/mozilla/geckoview/issues/167 It should be possible to have a shim that allows Mozilla's "GeckoView" component to implement the API, but - per that ticket, at least - most Android ROMs won't allow alternatives to the Google one. The Firefox browser is genuinely great, but it's so far from possible to replace Chrome with it everywhere a browser is used. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anguo@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago A lot of those apps allow you to open links in an external browser instead, but yes, that is a problem permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe I'm dumb but I have had no issues using Firefox on android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Other poster was saying apps that are built around web content use Chrome's webviewer component, and that tons of apps these days are react native, or whatever that Apache foundation tool is for deploying web apps as native apps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] codapine@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can't uninstall Chrome most likely, but maybe your stock/rom will allow you to "disable" it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Good idea. Let me disable it and see what breaks! ( i have firefox and inbrowser installed on lineageos ) permalink fedilink source parent [–] floofloof@lemmy.ca [S] 7 points 2 years ago Also Firefox Focus, which forgets your browsing history when you close it or hit the trashcan button. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago Fennec is the Android version of Firefox. In the future it will be Fenix permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago Privacy and digital rights are not a binary "use strange hard to use tools or give everything to google." There are things you can do to improve your ability to own your own data. Giving up immediately is letting perfect be the enemy of good. Running Firefox on your google phone will still win you back something permalink fedilink source parent [–] reflex@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Google has me by the balls anyway. GrapheneOS? Are you on a Pixel? permalink fedilink source parent [–] beteljuice@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago Lineageos+microg is a useable de-googled android. I'm using it now without any google services. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Spacemanspliff@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago (4 children) All of my web interaction at this point happens through my Android phone, Google has me by the balls anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] anguo@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago (4 children) There is Firefox for Android. You're still on Android, but you can have some control left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] qupada@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Unfortunately Firefox doesn't have a replacement for the "Android System WebView" component, so any app that embeds a browser component (and oh boy is that a lot of them) will still be using Chrome. There's a relevant ticket here: https://github.com/mozilla/geckoview/issues/167 It should be possible to have a shim that allows Mozilla's "GeckoView" component to implement the API, but - per that ticket, at least - most Android ROMs won't allow alternatives to the Google one. The Firefox browser is genuinely great, but it's so far from possible to replace Chrome with it everywhere a browser is used. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anguo@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago A lot of those apps allow you to open links in an external browser instead, but yes, that is a problem permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe I'm dumb but I have had no issues using Firefox on android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Other poster was saying apps that are built around web content use Chrome's webviewer component, and that tons of apps these days are react native, or whatever that Apache foundation tool is for deploying web apps as native apps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] codapine@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can't uninstall Chrome most likely, but maybe your stock/rom will allow you to "disable" it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Good idea. Let me disable it and see what breaks! ( i have firefox and inbrowser installed on lineageos ) permalink fedilink source parent [–] floofloof@lemmy.ca [S] 7 points 2 years ago Also Firefox Focus, which forgets your browsing history when you close it or hit the trashcan button. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago Fennec is the Android version of Firefox. In the future it will be Fenix permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago Privacy and digital rights are not a binary "use strange hard to use tools or give everything to google." There are things you can do to improve your ability to own your own data. Giving up immediately is letting perfect be the enemy of good. Running Firefox on your google phone will still win you back something permalink fedilink source parent [–] reflex@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Google has me by the balls anyway. GrapheneOS? Are you on a Pixel? permalink fedilink source parent [–] beteljuice@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago Lineageos+microg is a useable de-googled android. I'm using it now without any google services. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago (4 children) There is Firefox for Android. You're still on Android, but you can have some control left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] qupada@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Unfortunately Firefox doesn't have a replacement for the "Android System WebView" component, so any app that embeds a browser component (and oh boy is that a lot of them) will still be using Chrome. There's a relevant ticket here: https://github.com/mozilla/geckoview/issues/167 It should be possible to have a shim that allows Mozilla's "GeckoView" component to implement the API, but - per that ticket, at least - most Android ROMs won't allow alternatives to the Google one. The Firefox browser is genuinely great, but it's so far from possible to replace Chrome with it everywhere a browser is used. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anguo@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago A lot of those apps allow you to open links in an external browser instead, but yes, that is a problem permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe I'm dumb but I have had no issues using Firefox on android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Other poster was saying apps that are built around web content use Chrome's webviewer component, and that tons of apps these days are react native, or whatever that Apache foundation tool is for deploying web apps as native apps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] codapine@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can't uninstall Chrome most likely, but maybe your stock/rom will allow you to "disable" it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Good idea. Let me disable it and see what breaks! ( i have firefox and inbrowser installed on lineageos ) permalink fedilink source parent [–] floofloof@lemmy.ca [S] 7 points 2 years ago Also Firefox Focus, which forgets your browsing history when you close it or hit the trashcan button. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago Fennec is the Android version of Firefox. In the future it will be Fenix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] qupada@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Unfortunately Firefox doesn't have a replacement for the "Android System WebView" component, so any app that embeds a browser component (and oh boy is that a lot of them) will still be using Chrome. There's a relevant ticket here: https://github.com/mozilla/geckoview/issues/167 It should be possible to have a shim that allows Mozilla's "GeckoView" component to implement the API, but - per that ticket, at least - most Android ROMs won't allow alternatives to the Google one. The Firefox browser is genuinely great, but it's so far from possible to replace Chrome with it everywhere a browser is used. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anguo@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago A lot of those apps allow you to open links in an external browser instead, but yes, that is a problem permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe I'm dumb but I have had no issues using Firefox on android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Other poster was saying apps that are built around web content use Chrome's webviewer component, and that tons of apps these days are react native, or whatever that Apache foundation tool is for deploying web apps as native apps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago A lot of those apps allow you to open links in an external browser instead, but yes, that is a problem permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Maybe I'm dumb but I have had no issues using Firefox on android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Other poster was saying apps that are built around web content use Chrome's webviewer component, and that tons of apps these days are react native, or whatever that Apache foundation tool is for deploying web apps as native apps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago Other poster was saying apps that are built around web content use Chrome's webviewer component, and that tons of apps these days are react native, or whatever that Apache foundation tool is for deploying web apps as native apps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] codapine@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can't uninstall Chrome most likely, but maybe your stock/rom will allow you to "disable" it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Good idea. Let me disable it and see what breaks! ( i have firefox and inbrowser installed on lineageos ) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Good idea. Let me disable it and see what breaks! ( i have firefox and inbrowser installed on lineageos ) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca [S] 7 points 2 years ago Also Firefox Focus, which forgets your browsing history when you close it or hit the trashcan button. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago Fennec is the Android version of Firefox. In the future it will be Fenix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago Privacy and digital rights are not a binary "use strange hard to use tools or give everything to google." There are things you can do to improve your ability to own your own data. Giving up immediately is letting perfect be the enemy of good. Running Firefox on your google phone will still win you back something permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reflex@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Google has me by the balls anyway. GrapheneOS? Are you on a Pixel? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beteljuice@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago Lineageos+microg is a useable de-googled android. I'm using it now without any google services. permalink fedilink source parent