Yes! My mum taught me this trick when I was very young and it’s worked so well.

To build on the conversation theme, I’ve found that it takes less effort than you think to converse if you keep the focus on the other person. It just takes brief words of support, like cool/seriously?/that sounds great/awful/tiring/what have you. My go-to is “wild!” because it can be used positively or negatively and interpretation is up to them.

If they ask me about my own hobbies though, that strategy falls apart and I start breathlessly blabbing out WAY more details than I should. Haven’t figured out a solution to that yet. Easier not to volunteer anything personal and keep it on them.